7 metres is a particularly shit kick though, especially for a professional. I was never much of a kicker but I could clear it from inside the 22 to the half way line with reasonable accuracy and a decent bounce (so clearing into space). I guess these pitches will be bigger but the kickers will be far far better. Box kicking i could understand but from a designated kicker I'd expect them to be able to clear more than 7 metres
Yeah that's what I'm getting at. I'm not expecting every kick to be miles long but in space a player kicking downfield should be able to get more than 10 metres on it. Fair enough for box kicking, although I still think the average is a little on the short side.
He's 6 metres from his own try line, potentially near the side line and you think he should be kicking for a 20m+ territory gain every time? I disagree if that's what you're saying.
Also the measure is taken from how much territory is gained overall. So the kicker is having to compensate for how deep he's standing (usually 5-10m) and then kick the measured distance past that.
Well during the test match on saturday ill play close attention to how many kicks make it out of the 22. Im not saying he should be able to smash it every time but youd expect more often than not youd clear 7m
Well we play test matches here so im assuming the standard of the sr championship (of which fung has been one of the leading 15s) is a similar standard to the premiership. And the commentary describes it as a decent kick whereas I would argue its a poor kick
If you're in the corner on your try line, how are you going to kick for touch for more than a few metres? The angle isn't there regardless of how good a kicker you are. You're not going to cross-field it into touch given the risk.
Yeah I guess you could be in the corner. You can step out to mitigate it I guess but if thats what it is then its fine
Yeah there's definitely a lot of kicks from tight to the touchline in the 22 that don't go very far. EDIT: In the professional game I mean.
Look, I don't doubt that the kick distances are shorter than the distances kicked in real life in general anyway. However, I think the sim is reasonably well balanced as things stand and if I increase the kick distance then I'll probably have to reduce the running distances. As I recall, I increased (or improved the likelihood) of kicking longer distances going into this season.
Sim the rugby northern hemisphere stylez its only a problem I guess if it disadvantages or negates one style of play
Good point well made. Hadn't thought of that. Kicks for territory sometimes result in pathetic gains as well though. If you're in the middle of the field the best kickers should be able to gain some pretty decent territory.
90% of kicks from midfield are either up & unders or attempts to kick behind the back 3 and crowd the defender. Very rarely do pro players actually kick for touch outside the 22 because it's so hard to make it bounce out properly. If anything the realism issue in the sim is that hardly any big kicks are attempted downfield - but I'm pretty happy with that stuff being left out.
Yeah the kicks I was referring to in the quoted post were kicks downfield, not necessarily kicks for touch.
I think the metres described in the sim commentary is like a 'net gain' of sorts - so we see it say the bloke kicks 10m downfield when really, he's kicked 35m and the oppsition back has run 25m before he gets back to the gain line. There's no instances of things like the opposition fullback dropping it or letting it bounce too often which gets him isolated, or the kick bouncing randomly and becoming a 50/50 ball. So it's probably true that kicking downfield is being nerfed as a tactic, but like I said I'm happy with that.
We may need to consider an extra time option for finals rugby. It's extremely unlikely and I doubt we'll ever need it, but it's probably something we should have in there just in case.
Heath does them manually as the game sims I believe. Only way I can imagine in-game injuries are a thing.
