2019 State of Origin

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Old Mate, Jul 11, 2018.

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  1. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Mbye is a significantly less retarded selection than Milford but yeah he's just not very good in general. They should've just picked a proper second hooker given minor reshuffles cover the spine and threequarters well.
     
    Cribbage, May 27, 2019
    #261

  2. AVA T Delonge

    Yeah with Morgan at centre and Hunt at hooker, you have pretty much every spot covered outside props/second row as long as you have a backup hooker. That being said, Granville was the only other viable hooker option, so it's kind of a shit go either way.
     
    AVA, May 27, 2019
    #262

  3. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Yeah but above all else you do need a second hooker if you're going to play Hunt there for most of the game. Hard to ask someone who doesn't usually play there to defend in the middle for 80 minutes.

    I'd have started Granville, brought on Hunt after 15-20 minutes and just left him on for the remaining 60-65. Only uses one interchange if no-one gets injured, makes sure Hunt doesn't get too tired, and between Hunt and Morgan being able to shift to the halves and Fifita covering centre they've still got all potential injuries covered. Failing a specialist hooker like that the best option probably was Mbye though (plays 1-7 and 9 all to at least a "fringe first grader" standard, even though he's really not very good at any position, particularly not the one he's going to play (hooker)), which just goes to show how shit their options ended up for that spot after injuries to Friend and McCullough.
     
    Cribbage, May 27, 2019
    #263

  4. Julian BJ Taylor

    Really? I’d have thought NZ and England would supply like 6 players max between them with Taumalolo and Burgess the only real certainties.
     
    Julian, May 27, 2019
    #264

  5. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I couldn’t start Granville in Origin. He’s just not playing well enough. His service is so poor.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, May 27, 2019
    #265

  6. Magic AJ Parker

    I'm also factoring in Cam Smith and possibly Cooper Cronk as non eligible.

    Off the top of my head;

    Certainties: Burgess, Taumalolo, Taukeiaho, Hodgson, Cam Smith,

    Debatables: RTS, DWZ, Rapana, Joey Manu, Tapau, JWH, Bateman, Kikau,

    Like I said I haven't give it much thought prior but I'd go something like

    1. Tedesco
    2. Addo-Carr
    3. Mitchell
    4. Manu (1)
    5. Rapana (2)
    6. Munster
    7. Keary
    8. Burgess (3)
    9. Smith (4)
    10. Taukeiaho (5)
    11. Cordner
    12. Harris (6)
    13. Taumalolo (7)

    14. Klemmer
    15. Vaughan
    16. Tapau (8)
    17. Hodgson (9)

    So just over half, but I'm sure plenty would debate some of those selections.
     
    Magic, May 28, 2019
    #266

  7. Cribbage RG Cribb

    I haven't thought about a world side in ages, we should have a separate thread for it IMO.
     
    Cribbage, May 28, 2019
    #267

  8. Cribbage RG Cribb

    What would you have done though? The alternative of having Mbye come in at hooker for 15 minutes doesn't really seem like it'd improve the service to me...
     
    Cribbage, May 28, 2019
    #268

  9. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    From the selected squad? Yeah I’d pick Granville but I’d bench him. He actually would be a sharp threat running the ball so I’d bring him on for 20 minutes, 10 either side of half time. I think you have to start with your best possible side.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, May 28, 2019
    #269

  10. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Fuck you’re reaching to prove a point
     
    Boobidy, May 28, 2019
    #270

  11. Magic AJ Parker

    No Oates?
     
    Magic, May 28, 2019
    #271

  12. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Haha I think the biggest obvious reach is sneaking Hodgson onto the bench. Even if he's a better hooker than Cook - which is debatable in the first place - Cook would be clearly better at that bench role.
     
    Cribbage, May 28, 2019
    #272

  13. Magic AJ Parker

    Yeh I thought about that but the argument is around the quality of players, not the quality of the team. So I treated it a bit like an awards team.

    If you were picking a bench for a legitimate game you'd definitely be taking Cook and probably a more mobile forward such as Bateman on the bench.
     
    Magic, May 28, 2019
    #273

  14. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Looking at it this way I'd probably just pick a 1-5 of four fullbacks and Latrell. I'd be half tempted to do it even in a real game.

    1 Ponga
    2 RTS
    3 Tedesco
    4 Mitchell
    5 Turbo
     
    Cribbage, May 28, 2019
    #274

  15. Cribbage RG Cribb

    neva4get Teddy's dominance at centre for Italy
     
    Cribbage, May 28, 2019
    #275

  16. Alec AD Funkotron

    If QLD somehow win this series, it'll be almost up there with 2006 and 1995. I've got a bad feeling Munster will get exposed again.
     
    Alec, May 28, 2019
    #276

  17. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Nothing comes close to 1995. Not even 2006. Winning this year wouldn't really be equitable. The NSW side just isn't that good. 95 is the greatest underdog story probably in the history of Australian Rugby League.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, May 28, 2019
    #277

  18. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I can't remember any series in which a team had been so preemptively written off by everyone and then turned around and won in a clean sweep as they did in 95. The Lockyer/Smith/Thurston dynasty only won in a clean sweep once.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, May 28, 2019
    #278

  19. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I still can’t believe they picked Cleary but dropped Maloney. I don’t know how you begin to justify that.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, May 28, 2019
    #279

  20. Alec AD Funkotron

    It was only one game, but Cleary seemed far more comfortable without Baloney. He's probably almost finished as a player too, that's probably how they justify that.
     
    Alec, May 28, 2019
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