2014 State of Origin

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by KimmorleyKiller, Jul 17, 2013.

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  1. Cribbage RG Cribb

    It fits all of Pearce, Maloney, Carney, Mullen, Sezer, Roberts, Kelly and Gidley. :laugh:
     
    Cribbage, Jul 18, 2013
    #61

  2. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    I think that idea that they're on about is taken from the double movement rule, it is a fair link to make.



    Well I'm on board
    HAIL SEZER
     
    Sultan Pepper, Jul 18, 2013
    #62

  3. Jazz NC Smith

    :laughing: Fortunately I don't think Pearce looks good in blue ... or any colour for that matter. His face makes me want to punch a small child.
     
    Jazz, Jul 18, 2013
    #63

  4. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    That's where they get it from but it's still wrong.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 18, 2013
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  5. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Not that they played poorly, certainly not, but I struggle to find room for Gillett and Te'o. I think there ought to be only one bench spot reserved for a second rower and I would probably give it to Papalii. It's a tricky situation though because despite his extremely impressive demonstrations of ability there for the Raiders he played a different position in his two Origin games. As did Gillett so perhaps whatever potential I would want to project onto Papalii it would perhaps be unfair not to grant the same accommodation to Gillett.

    It's a curious position to find oneself in particularly for those who maintain a policy of prioritising previous Origin performances over club form. Here you have two second rowers competing for the one position, both of whom have been played out of their element, their usual role. Given these strange circumstances I think it's fair to resort to, or rather fall back on, proven club ability. And there is no doubt in my mind that Papalii is the superior player, both in attack and defence.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 18, 2013
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  6. SM MD Dorn

    wonder if McCrone gets a look in due to Daley's intense love for him
     
    SM, Jul 18, 2013
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  7. Magic AJ Parker

    He's seriously underrated imo.

    I wouldn't pick him but I rate higher than some of the other genuine options.
     
    Magic, Jul 18, 2013
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  8. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Do you rate him higher than Pearce? :p
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 18, 2013
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  9. Colesy BL Hornby

    Would get Carney and adam reynolds in the halves. Kidley back on the bench. Idris worth some thought if he pulls his finger out too.
     
    Colesy, Jul 18, 2013
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  10. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    lol yeah, pick Idris. I dare you...
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 19, 2013
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  11. SM MD Dorn

    Idris wouldn't exactly be a bad pick, he was in pretty damn good form
     
    SM, Jul 19, 2013
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  12. Magic AJ Parker

    Pulls his finger out? He's been gun this year.

    If we pick Carney and Hayne whoever we pick at halfback really doesn't bother me there's a group of halfbacks all at about the same level but not one who'd you say is origin class. Reynolds then falls below that group.

    My biggest concern is after giving Soward, Carney and Maloney (none ever really impressing) a full serious each we go with one of Sutton or J Reynolds.
     
    Magic, Jul 19, 2013
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  13. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Probably not I suppose if you think club form really means a lot. I personally don't. I think he's lazy and a shit defender.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 19, 2013
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  14. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Reynolds is a dangerous pick for NSW because given the fondness of Daley and NSW in general of picking club pairings, you'd have to think Sutton is in with a real chance next year. Of course club form will decide it but you can't like Carney's chances after, as you said, having failed to impress in his shot at it.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 19, 2013
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  15. SM MD Dorn

    He's not played origin for, 3 years now? 2 maybe? He's definitely changed a lot.

    I agree that his former was definitely lazy, but this year he seemed to have left that behind, and was "looking" for work more often
     
    SM, Jul 19, 2013
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  16. Colesy BL Hornby

    I could live with Sutton getting a chance.
     
    Colesy, Jul 19, 2013
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  17. SM MD Dorn

    Campese and McCrone!
     
    SM, Jul 19, 2013
    #77

  18. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    He's played well this year no doubt. I'm not convinced though. If you're going to use form as a guide then what he does now is less significant than what he does next year. He could well fall back to his previous form which, as I said, is laziness and shitty defence. I certainly wouldn't want him defending Inglis. He may be more physically imposing but positionally I think he's good severe deficiencies.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 19, 2013
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  19. Cribbage RG Cribb

    He's been good positionally this year though. Given how bad he was before and the nature of his game in general I do agree it's too quick to pull the trigger right now but it might not be by the time next year's Origin rolls around and he keeps it up.

    I definitely think it's funny that he's a much better player now than he was when he actually played Origin and is facing worse competition but isn't getting talked up at all. Shows what being part of a successful/popular Sydney club can do for you I guess, as well as being new to first grade and a bit unknown.
     
    Cribbage, Jul 19, 2013
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  20. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I don't think he belongs in Origin at all. But yes, if his main competition is Josh Morris then I can see why people might want to take the plunge.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Jul 19, 2013
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