The Transfer Thread (Rumours and Confirmed)

Discussion in 'Association Football Discussion' started by DFC-Lee, May 11, 2010.

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  1. loganb JEM Logan

    Well this is the issue. Fair enough to get into it, but if you don't know a lot about something, learn about it rather than posting as though you know it all.

    By all means, if he'd thought that City were notorious for holding managers on too long, he can ask that to learn about it, but don't just assume you're right.
     
    loganb, Jun 15, 2013
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  2. Furball G Furball

    It's not evidence of a club that's patient with their managers, which is what Prez was claiming.
     
    Furball, Jun 15, 2013
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  3. Verigoat S Verigotta

    That wasn't the issue

    The issue was saying city have a history of holding on to managers
     
    Verigoat, Jun 15, 2013
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  4. Eds E Ames

    I get that, but the only thing that matters is the current owners. And based on the current owners, I don't think Prez's comment was too far off - Pellegrini is only the second manager they've appointed. I might be wrong and he might have just fucked up, but that's how I interpreted it because Thaksin Shinawatra, John Wardle and Francis Lee's treatment of managers is irrelevant to the discussion.
     
    Eds, Jun 15, 2013
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  5. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    Eds digging Prez out of his hole there :laugh:
     
    BoyBlunder, Jun 15, 2013
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  6. loganb JEM Logan

    I would love to know which managers he was talking about when he said that they keep managers on too long though.
     
    loganb, Jun 15, 2013
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  7. Eds E Ames

    Well, you'd assume Roberto Mancini.
     
    Eds, Jun 15, 2013
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  8. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    On the field record suggesting he was sacked too early really.

    Obviously external factors are what the board are attributing it to but still nothing to base his statement on
     
    BoyBlunder, Jun 15, 2013
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  9. loganb JEM Logan

    I'd hardly say 3 years and 5 months is keeping a manager on too long. Especially when he won the league season before the one just finished.
     
    loganb, Jun 15, 2013
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  10. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    1 Fa Cup, 1 League title and runner up in both in 3 seasons. Not bad at all if you ask me when he started with a team who'd never won anything
     
    BoyBlunder, Jun 15, 2013
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  11. loganb JEM Logan

    Well exactly. To suggest City have a record of holding on to managers too long (even the new owners) is quite frankly, ridiculous.

    Surprised Eds tried to defend it tbh.
     
    loganb, Jun 15, 2013
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  12. Eds E Ames

    They had the best squad this season and got no silverware at all. That would be understandable if the title race was close but it wasn't.

    I'm not saying I'd have sacked him myself, but it's certainly an understandable decision. Pellegrini is the better manager.
     
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    Eds, Jun 15, 2013
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  13. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    On the basis of 1 manager sacking its not that ridiculous. It's not correct afaic but then that's a matter of opinion. I'm sure there are Man City supporters of decades who felt Mancini deserved to go, especially if you take the owners reasons at face value.

    If he's trying to talk about City in history then it becomes ridiculous
     
    BoyBlunder, Jun 15, 2013
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  14. Cevno IV Narang

    It was a longer rope given to Mancini in comparison to other new money clubs, tbf. Or someone like Real/Barca who have track record of big big spending.

    But yeah, in standalone terms or comparing to say Arsenal/United type of thing it was probably too short.
     
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    Cevno, Jun 15, 2013
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  15. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    DWTA. And that's precisely why they didn't win the league this season imo. They have very little depth and it really hurt them.

    They have a core group of about 15 really good players but beyond that nothing imo.

    Whereas United while the standard of their best 15 is lower than that of Cities, their 16-25 is of a very similar standard to 10-15
     
    BoyBlunder, Jun 15, 2013
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  16. loganb JEM Logan

    And? It simply will not happen every season. And he still came second. There was only one team in England better than them this season, as has been the case since he started.
     
    loganb, Jun 15, 2013
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  17. loganb JEM Logan

    Well hang on, let's look at those clubs.

    Chelsea, who are notorious for sacking managers after 3 days, and QPR who were in a relegation battle and far more desperate for quick results.

    I don't think either of those cases even come close to a comparison of City's situation.
     
    loganb, Jun 15, 2013
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  18. Cevno IV Narang

    Well, you are just elaborating what i said.
     
    Cevno, Jun 15, 2013
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  19. loganb JEM Logan

    Not in the slightest. I'm expanding on what you said.
     
    loganb, Jun 15, 2013
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  20. Eds E Ames

    :lol:
     
    Eds, Jun 15, 2013
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