S5, P5: New Zealand vs. Australia - Completed

Discussion in 'Matches' started by HeathDavisSpeed, Jun 16, 2014.

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  1. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    New Zealand

    Joshua Ritchie
    Alan Izett
    DJ Edwards
    Jason Denton
    Heath Davis
    JD Hurricane
    Dexter Astele
    Samuel Yates
    Sam Bakkum
    Dan Larkinson
    Matt Dorn
    Gareth Weaver
    John Heads
    Geoff Smith
    Regan Hutchinson

    Chris Smith
    James Torres
    Mike Martyn
    Simon Humble
    Matt Scoble
    PM Jackson
    Damien Taylor

    Australia

    Benny Read
    Tom Delonge
    Wes Welker
    Morgan Burridge
    Donald Boland
    Ben Manera
    League Lover
    Pretzel Spark
    Rob Cribb
    Aaron Hunt
    Daniel Speirs
    Dion Alessi
    Steve Cambridge
    Ben Herd
    Alistair Son

    16. Dave Eggman
    17. Aaron O'Neill
    18. Choco Man
    19. Jazman Eightyfour
    20. Charlie Downes
    21. Kelvin Fung
    22. James Hughes
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2014
    HeathDavisSpeed, Jun 16, 2014
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  2. Jabba HJ Bots

    Fire up black!
     
    Jabba, Jun 16, 2014
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  3. Gazza GJ Weaver

    Carn the ABs
     
    Gazza, Jun 16, 2014
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  4. Hunter AD Hunt

    Should piss it in.
     
    Hunter, Jun 16, 2014
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  5. Arheiner SIA Yates

    EZ. Even with the front row massacre that will ensue.
     
    Arheiner, Jun 16, 2014
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  6. Benny BS Read

    Lol at humble playing off bench!!
     
    Benny, Jun 16, 2014
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  7. El Nino J Torres

    Does Damo or Humble lead the haka?
     
    El Nino, Jun 16, 2014
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  8. Benny BS Read

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    Damo at the haka
     
    Benny, Jun 16, 2014
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  9. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Hurricane I reckon.
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Jun 16, 2014
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  10. Furball G Furball

    Carn Australia!
     
    Furball, Jun 16, 2014
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  11. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Can someone do a preview comparing the strengths and weaknesses of the sides. The oddsmakers have them evenly matched.
     
    Hurricane, Jun 16, 2014
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  12. Benny BS Read

    Australia demolishes NZ at frontrow. NZ dominates at lock. Flank/8 maybe NZ just. 9/10 Australia again. Outside backs evenish NZ though IMO.
     
    Benny, Jun 16, 2014
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  13. MASTERS S Masters

    Lets go Aussies !
     
    MASTERS, Jun 16, 2014
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  14. Arheiner SIA Yates

    Roughly this, I'd say our backs are definitely better from 11-15. If Humble wasn't shunting it Flanker/8 would be less even, but definitely a fair analysis.
     
    Arheiner, Jun 16, 2014
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  15. Mousey AJ Son

    2ez. Son4hattrick
     
    Mousey, Jun 16, 2014
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  16. Howe JHF Howe

    I reckon Aus will take this. Got a better spine (8-10) and don't have Athlai
     
    Howe, Jun 16, 2014
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  17. Mousey AJ Son

    Score when I went off last week: 15-0

    The facts speak for themselves
     
    Mousey, Jun 16, 2014
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  18. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    First time in 41 years i've heard of a spine for union. Our friends in the league forum talk about it quite a bit.

    Did you invent the (8-10) being the spine or is it an actual concept for union?
     
    Hurricane, Jun 16, 2014
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  19. Howe JHF Howe

    I believe it's a term borrowed from League, mainly because some #8s are starting to resemble a League hooker in some ways. Often you see a #8 pick the ball up from the back of the scrum or maul but more often now we're starting to see players with some creative skill fill that position. A fashionable play seems to be to take it forward a few steps and pass short to the scrum-half, who can therefore become a quasi-first reciever. The most regular example I've seen in the premiership of an 8-9-10 playing this way are Easter, Care and Evans for Harlequins.

    While there are still plenty of traditional straight-forward #8s at the top sides (especially Leicester and Saracens) I'm starting to hear the 'spine' talked about quite often and I think it's for this reason. In particular remember listening to an episode of the Eggchasers podcast (recommended but very anglo-centric) where one of the contributors insisted that Harlequins would best Bath this season despite an inferior tight 5, centres and wings because of their spine. In the end he was right.
     
    Howe, Jun 17, 2014
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  20. Howe JHF Howe

    It's also widely understood in professional circles that Athlai cannot stop himself giving the ball away.
     
    Howe, Jun 17, 2014
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