I wanted to try something new, may have been because I didn't submit order on the night I died. At least my death got us a mafia for free.
Hah, I actually had a kill order on AVA the night before last because I submitted early for fear of not getting back on for 24 hours. Then Athers came into the thread and said "don't need to be killing anyone" so I retracted it in case my read was wrong
I think it always helps when you keep a cop alive the whole game tbf. You had it pretty easy at the end because we were able to narrow the list of probable and possible mafias down pretty easily. I agree though, best game I've played in for a while
So there were five Barksdales? I had to kill three, and survive to the end of the game to win. That would have been a Herculean task.
I had to survive to the end of the game, undetected, whilst ensuring that no other Barksdales survived, to satisfy my individual win condition.
Morgie being a useful vanilla towards the end dragged him back from one of the true Jar Jar performances of our time.
My D1 actions was basically quintessential Jar Jar Fortunately unlike McGrath I eventually realised what I had done....or the town was a lot more experienced to cover it.
Yeah, the odds are definitely swinging in towns favour for most mafia games now, because the town are smart enough to not just lynch someone based on a cop report. It does make it difficult to implement a random/insane/paranoid cop in themed mafia games though, as a little bit of character research can pretty much reveal whether the person is trustworthy or not.
The biggest balance crisis we've had with theme mafia is that character claiming and the theme itself, means that town are able to gain additional information about what they're looking for and ways to clear themselves or condemn others based on theme knowledge. I definitely think theme mafia is a superior game but "no character claims" and having report godfathers just aren't enough to balance this out. I think game creators need to design games with this in mind. Create more red herring characters, gift "clear" character identities to town or don't tell some players the character they are. I think all the recent games have been well done and enjoyable but CS as a whole has become proficient enough to use any edge given to scum hunt with great effectiveness. I also would like to see more mafia players be a bit more brazen in regards to claiming and ccing for short term goals. Sowing confusion is definitely underrated. Mafia should always have one or two (if not all) players in the discussion. Letting actual town dictate the game leads to endings like this one.
Yeah, Howe did end up giving us some characters to claim, which did help. But from what I could tell, they were all minor characters, which is to be expected in such a big game, with a limited timeframe to set it in.
Yeah setting aside Herc and Carver or something would have been a complete gamechanger and something I tried to be conscious of during the game. I wonder if we should look at having an experienced mafia sit out to help a mafia team in a game. See if that helps to get a cohesive game plan. IE Heef sits out of a game and only plays via the Mafia QT.
I favour setting aside some key players in theme mafia. Because then if one mafiso claims that dude, then the town might be more willing to trust them....to their detriment.
Yeah, not having a safe claim kinda sucks. Burrell was solid but at the end game with 5 left he'd be easily the weakest. Overall a good game. Would have done a few things differently had I had my time again but I enjoyed it. Big fuck up thinking that AVA was immune to Athers though. And I was immune to him until KATA died
AVA was going to be my lynch target if it came up green. I suspect we may have had mass reveals if AVA pushed back hard against it and from there it would be out of who seems more dubious, Sydnor or Fitz. The QT thing also sounded a bit like lies I've told in the past.
Town has no way of knowing morgie and blunder hadn't done this though. Most town had no way of clearing themselves, maf just sort of accepted it. it's amazing what you can get away with if you're proactive about it. remember when Athlai claimed a fucking horse?
