Squad sizes and Injuries

Discussion in 'CPL Cricket' started by Baxter, Oct 20, 2010.

  1. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Nah.
     
  2. Ged GEC King

    haha. Teams like Boob's and Benny's could struggle under this.
     
  3. Cribbage RG Cribb

    They'll just have to choose the players they keep carefully.

    Boob's team struggles anyway and I don't think Benny's retirees have really done anything.
     
  4. Ged GEC King

    What would your structure be of keeping players if it was all your decision?
     
  5. Cribbage RG Cribb

    I'd contemplate implementing something a little more complicated, kind of like what you suggested a week or so ago, but it'd be hard to explain/follow I think.

    We'd basically just go back over the old draft order again, re-picking replaced players. So the earlier draft picks you released, the earlier picks you got.

    There are a few reasons why I don't think this would work awesomely though.
     
  6. Ged GEC King

    I'm trying to work out whether the fact that the last year and a half will count is a good or bad thing for me. Obviously Watson is going to be much better. However, Mendis hasn't been doing much of late. At least my key players are still all young enough.
     
  7. Ged GEC King

    One being that I'd get a second round pick for Sharma.
     
  8. Cribbage RG Cribb

    To explain this further, here are the first three rounds of Season 1's draft:


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    Official Draft Order : Round 1
    Julian - Jacques "In-A-Box" Kallis
    nz003 + Damo + El Nino - Muttiah "Muscles" Muralitharan
    Stormer + Farhat - Kumar "Get It" Sangakarra 
    Luffers + Blunder - Dale "Shit" Steyn
    Freddy - Mahendra "Can't" Singh Dhoni
    Ged - Ajantha "I-can't-ha" Mendis
    marcussjd9 -Jimmy "The Cricket" Anderson
    Farny - Matt Prior
    Heath + Fung - Makhaya "or lower" Ntini
    Speirz - Daniel Vettori
    [I][B]Incey - Mitchell "Magic" Johnson[/B][/I]
    Lordeman - Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    Boobidy - Ricky Ponting
    Eds + Gazza + Shri - Sachin "Eight Nine" Tendulkar
    Benny - AB De Villiers
    CCG - - Graeme Swann
    
    Official Draft Order : Round 2
    CCG - Brett Lee
    Benny - Andrew Flintoff
    Eds + Gazza + Shri - Jayawardene
    Boobidy - Kevin Pietersen
    Lordeman - Shane Bond
    [I][B]Incey - Graeme Smith[/B][/I]
    Speriz - Stuart Clark
    Heath + Fung - Chaminda Vaas
    Farny - Michael Clarke 
    marcussjd9 - Gautam Ghambir
    Ged - Ishant Sharma
    Freddy -Zaheer Khan
    Luffers + Blunder - Younis Khan
    [I][B]Stormer + Farhat - Harbhajan Singh[/B][/I]
    nz003 + Damo + El Nino - Virender Sehwag
    Julian - Brad Haddin
    
    Official Draft Order : Round 3
    Julian - Shoaib Akhtar
    [I][B]nz003 + Damo + El Nino - Jacob Oram[/B][/I]
    Stormer + Farhat - Mohammad Yousuf
    Luffers + Blunder - Shakib Al Hasan
    Freddy - Michael Hussey
    Ged - Ashwell Prince
    [I][B]marcussjd9 - Andrew Symonds[/B][/I]
    Farny - Umar Gul
    Heath + Fung - Jesse Ryder
    Speirz - Thilan Samaraweera
    Incey - Shane Warne
    Lordeman - Ryan Sidebottom
    [I][B]Boobidy - Matthew Hayden[/B][/I]
    Eds + Gazza + Shri - Glen McGrath
    Benny - Peter Siddle
    CCG - Andrew Strauss
    Now if the bolded players were released for Season 2, the new draft order would start out as:

    Incey
    Incey
    Stormer + Farhat
    nz003 + Damo + El Nino
    Baxter
    Boobidy

    What does everyone, except CCG, think of that?
    The positive is that it encourages people to release some better players and increase player turnover, as well as giving new players a chance to recruit some decent players.
    The problem I see with it is that it might be a bit hard to follow.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2010
  9. Baxter MJ Deane

    It'd be down to me to sort it out, so that needn't be a problem.

    Where would you slot new teams into that order Rob?
     
  10. Ged GEC King

    Yeah. That sounds good. You forgot to bold Ishant Sharma though :p
     
  11. Ged GEC King

    You'd have to give the new teams two picks each to beging with before letting others pick any imo. You've got to give them a fighting chance.
     
  12. Cribbage RG Cribb

    That's one of the "few reasons" I don't think it'd work awesomely. :p

    First instinct is to just add them onto the bottom of each round's draft.

    So that'd make the order:

    Incey
    New Team 1
    New Team 2
    New Team 3
    New Team 4
    New Team 5
    Incey
    Stormer + Farhat
    New Team 5
    New Team 4
    New Team 3
    New Team 2
    New Team 1
    nz003 + Damo + El Nino
    Baxter
    Boobidy
    New Team 4
    New Team 2
    New Team 3
    New Team 1
    New Team 5

    etc etc.

    Could put them at the top instead - don't think it'd matter all that much.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2010
  13. Ged GEC King

    One thing's for sure, the new blokes that you get will need to really knowledgable. They're gonna have to make zero errors in selection and rely on their entire 11 rather than a few stars.
     
  14. Baxter MJ Deane

    *entire squads...
    20 squads of 18 = 360 playes.
    8 Test nations, squads of 15 = 120.

    So approximately 240 non-regular Test players to be drafted...
     
  15. Cribbage RG Cribb

    There are ****s like Aamer that didn't get picked at all last time who will be good value anyway though.
     
  16. Baxter MJ Deane

    stfuc
     
  17. Ged GEC King

    Yeah. There'll obv be some young up and comers but the new teams are very likely to be devoid of any out and out stars that most teams possess at least one.
     
  18. Callum CJ Laing

    I think the best way for it to wrok if people are keeping players is to allow the new teams to pick up until they reach the agreed number of players to be kept. The new teams are already going to be dented by not having a real chance at the elite players, so they need to get a good chance at better players.
     
  19. Baxter MJ Deane

    Only problem with that is it reduces the incentive to release players you picked early if they're all going to be taken before you have a chance to pick.
     
  20. Ged GEC King

    That's why I reckon that you say that a team can keep up to 4, maybe 5 players, but must release two of their top 4 picks. It forces teams to release quality players and gives the new blokes at least some good test players.
    It'd free up a lot of the following list of players at the very least:

    Official Draft Order : Round 3
    Julian - Shoaib Akhtar
    nz003 + Damo + El Nino - Jacob Oram
    Stormer + Farhat - Mohammad Yousuf
    Luffers + Blunder - Shakib Al Hasan
    Freddy - Michael Hussey
    Ged - Ashwell Prince
    marcussjd9 - Andrew Symonds
    Farny - Umar Gul
    Heath + Fung - Jesse Ryder
    Speirz - Thilan Samaraweera
    Incey - Shane Warne
    Lordeman - Ryan Sidebottom
    Boobidy - Matthew Hayden
    Eds + Gazza + Shri - Glen McGrath
    Benny - Peter Siddle
    CCG - Andrew Strauss

    There are some pretty good names in there.
     

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