Fantasy - The Ashes (CricketWeb Fantasy comp 1289079585)

Discussion in 'Betting, Tipping and Fantasy' started by Julian, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. McGrath JE McGrath

    Just tweeted Swanny to give Broady i kicking for my -10 points.
     
  2. Mousey AJ Son

    It wasn't that bad! :p Went for about 3.5, which is a bit expensive, and didn't get too many wickets. Bad series, but it was only 2 Tests :p
     
  3. Baxter MJ Deane

    He averaged 70 man
     
  4. Mousey AJ Son

    He only went for 3.5 though. It was a bad series, I'll admit that haha, but it wasn't a horror one. It wasn't as if he was carted all day and couldn't take a wicket. He was just ineffective.
     
  5. Baxter MJ Deane

    Which is pretty much the definition of being a bad test bowler....

    He was fine, he just didn't take any wicket or do his job at all :unsure:
     
  6. Mousey AJ Son

    I didn't say he did his job. All I said is it wasn't a 'horror' series that would greatly blemish his record.
     
  7. Baxter MJ Deane

    No you said he was ineffective... he was shit.
    He averaged 70 ffs. 70!
    How's that not a blemish?!
     
  8. Mousey AJ Son

    Because it's a two Test sample size. You'd be stupid to judge someone on two Tests. In the third and four Tests of the last Ashes Swann averaged 93. No-one looks at this years series and says, wow, Swann sucked in those two Tests he really isn't that good and will suck against Australia.

    I'm not saying he wasn't shit, all I'm saying it doesn't matter. It's his only bad series, and even then it wasn't horrific.
     
  9. Baxter MJ Deane

    How was it not horrific? He averaged seventy. seven zero. 70.
     
  10. Mousey AJ Son

    **** this, you don't listen to reason. I've explained it above, but you seem to only want an argument.
     
  11. Baxter MJ Deane

    No, nobody said it was important. But you're trying to claim a series averaging 70 against the West Indies isn't "that bad" and isn't a blemish.
    Yes its only two tests, which should be considered but that doesn't mean that over those two tests he wasn't really, really, really horrifclicly bad.
     
  12. Mousey AJ Son

    But he wasn't! Jesus. He was ineffective, and bowled badly the majority of the time, but he wasn't "really, really, really horrifically bad"!

    I'm not trying to claim it "isn't that bad". I said he bowled shit ffs. I'm saying it wasn't the horrific series you claim it and want it to be.
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2010
  13. Baxter MJ Deane

    How was it not horrific? He averaged 70 and took a wicket, what, every 20 overs? That is really, really bad.
    Test bowlers are there to take wickets, I'd rather a bowler go at 5 an over averaging 45 than 1 an over averaging 70.
    Do you just not get how bad averaging 70 is?
    Being ineffective is really, really bad for a Test bowler, he's not just doing his job badly.... he's not doing his job at all. That's terrible.
    Billing badly for the majority if the time ... ergo he had a shocking series.
    However you out it, he was woeful.
     
  14. Mousey AJ Son

    Find someone else to argue with mate, you're as stubborn as they come.
     
  15. Baxter MJ Deane

    And you're either wrong or a huge fan of mediocrity. or both.
     
  16. Hunter AD Hunt

    Don't see how one can argue going at 3.5 is good. If you're arguing for a test bowler to be economical you want them to be ideally ~2.5.
     
  17. Mousey AJ Son

    I'm not arguing it to be good. I'm arguing that it isn't "horrific".
     
  18. Hunter AD Hunt

    I thought you were arguing that the 70 average wasn't horrific due to a good eco rate.
     
  19. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Averaging 70 for a series is horrific. No ifs or buts about it. It doesn't that mean much in the context of his career but defending an average of 70 by saying it was "bad but not bad" is just crap.
     
  20. Mousey AJ Son

    The average is bad, really bad - I guess you could say horrific. My point, though, was that he wasn't carted around all day, and just bowled poorly and without luck. The series against the Windies wasn't his best, but it was hardly horrific. No-one looks back at that series and says how bad Siddle was.
     

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