Doctor Who

Discussion in 'Entertainment Lounge' started by Skippos, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. Skippos SM Morgan

    Needs its own thread.
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2012
  2. Hunter AD Hunt

    In the direness subforum.
  3. mouse MJ Edwards

  4. Harps ZAF MacDonald

    Bringing teh lulz.
  5. Zakaron SDR Laing

    Greatest show ever.
  6. Number 11 CJ Downes

  7. Skippos SM Morgan

    Oh what a shocker! ouch, terrible.
  8. Alec AD Funkotron

    Off to a great start.
  9. Skippos SM Morgan

    Seriously - is anyone getting frustrated with the new series? It's really getting on my goat.

    Yeah, I'll still watch and enjoy it, but it's just so lacking - and it's just not Moffat. It's becoming americanized - marketable names (Dinosaurs in Space, Angels in Manhattan, Wild Wild West etc.) too much cramped into one 44 minute slot.

    I mean, the power of three was without a doubt the best episode of the series - but there is no way on earth it shouldn't have been a two parter. Two parters are generally the best episodes, but I was so frustrated with the ending to the power of three. The Shakri looked so good, and then you just 'get rid of them' in 3 minutes. Clearly should have been expanded into 30 minutes extra of battling and cat/mousing with them at least.

    And in the wild west episode, I mean since when has The Doctor been a vengeful, violent man. He's got his demons and wrongs but the behaviour he exhibited wasn't 'the doctor' - and it came from nowhere. You can't just rewrite a character like that with no explanation.

    Episode one was alright - but a few things were just stupid regarding Amy & Rory - such as the explanation of their 'divorce' - or lack of. You introduce two longstanding characters who have previously shared an excellent marriage as divorced with no explanation? GAGF. The show's tried so hard to make their relationship bond and explore the growth of it, yet no explanation is offered for the loss?

    Now to my biggest frustration - the exit episode of Amy & Rory. Such. Fucking. Bullshit. River just fucked it up - she didn't need to be there, everything she did just felt odd - I mean, as they 'leave' - the 'it doesn't matter' line just ruined it. I mean, why? The lack of 'awesome' episodes is disappointing - Blink, Silence in the Library, The Empty Child & more, those episodes were just amazing in terms of dialogue, characterisation and plotlines. Every episode in this series had struggled in all. Back to the episode, anyway. WHO THE FUCK WOULDN'T NOTICE THE STATUE OF LIBERTY MOVING ONTO LAND. If the angels can't move if looked at, and the statue is one - well, surely someone's looking at it at all times. And even if not, surely it's huge footsteps would attract attention before it moves 400 metres to where they are? And where's the fucking panic. Ridiculous. And the send off to Amy and Rory? 5 episodes should have been given to an arc exploring their relevance to the doctor and exit them appropriately. All that's happened is them taking a sideshow. Amy's been a follower - Rory's made the decisions, and she's just been 'there' - with nothing we really like about her. She's no longer the girl who waited but merely the girl who stands there. She deserved more than that - as did Rory. The episodes have just been so crammed they don't explore emotion or the plotline in depth. It's just stupid.

    Like, I still like it - and I love the subtle synthesis of different, small things in each episode - but it's doing nothing for me.
  10. Mariner CL Warrington

    Hopefully it'll get better after Christmas with the new assistant, but still hate Moffat for getting rid of two parters, really ruins it imo.
  11. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Both of those things were very well explained tbh.
  12. Callum CJ Laing

    Another thread where I can say this now.

    It is shit.
  13. Alec AD Funkotron

    I kinda liked the show when I was in my late teens back in 05 or 06 with Doctor Eggman in charge. Haven't watched it lately though, and I've probably outgrown it.
  14. Number 11 CJ Downes

    Stopped watching seasons ago, tried to get back into it but it's just not there for me and even if it did improve, there's no way I would be able to get back into it after missing 3 seasons.
  15. spark!ptz PH Spark

    this is a seriously seriously weird post
  16. spark!ptz PH Spark

    i mean i'm not entirely sure whether it's a troll post or not, it's that weird
  17. Skippos SM Morgan

    Disagree, completely.
  18. Skippos SM Morgan

    it should be stated that I turned off dinosaurs after 10 minutes as I found it incredibly bad.
  19. Skippos SM Morgan

    Spark has just enlightened me that this ^ could be a result of this ^^
  20. Howe JHF Howe

    Indeed, basically everything in it is wrong. Except for the mention of Blink as one of the best episodes. It's like that, by the way, precisely because it tries to do "too much" in one 44-minute slot.

    And two parter episodes are generally not the best. Doing the random 20 minutes of dialogue with tons of enemies that should just kill him is by far the worst thing about the show, especially when it then ends with a speech about how amazing the doctor is followed by a deus ex machina. The old series finales are full of them and it's just bland and unoriginal.

    The "awesome" episodes are usuallly single parters (not always, I'll give you The empty Child) because DW is a show that thrives on new ideas and doing whatever it wants, often mixed with character study. Episodes like "The Girl who Waited" are the real awesome ones, and that's clearly the effect they've gone for here, though it hasn't come off quite as well.

    I find it hard to believe that what people wanted from "The power of three" was just being captured, monologuing with the bad guys followed by pull the switch to kill them all. It seemed like a write off because it cut out the unnecessary bit where previous episodes (Journey's End the worst offender) tried to go for a sense of scale. It never works.

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