Could've, Would've, Should've

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Jazz, Jun 8, 2013.

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  1. Julian BJ Taylor

    Early Inglis, (time of test debut) was an absolute sight to behold. He was breathtakingly brilliant.

    Will be interesting to see whether he retires early or tries something else.
     
    Julian, Aug 5, 2014
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  2. Benny BS Read

    Agreed but he was always going to gradually lose his immense athletiscm regardless I'd rather him be bulked as he will IMO become a edge forward as his career winds down and still be more than fg quality till fat lady sings

    I think the fact Inglis allows himself to play as an Indian rather than a chief in Rep sides isn't all bad given your spine should be taking charge
     
    Benny, Aug 5, 2014
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  3. Julian BJ Taylor

    I think he could end up a brilliant forward. But I tend to believe some of the news articles written a year or so ago. He could retire very, very early. Especially if he wins a premiership with Souths. He's got nothing left to achieve and if he wants a retirement fund he could put on another 20 kilos and still pick up $2 mil a season in rugby.
     
    Julian, Aug 5, 2014
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  4. Benny BS Read

    Yeah its a definite chance as long as we get a premiership first I'll respect whatever choice he makes
     
    Benny, Aug 5, 2014
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  5. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    That's a pretty high benchmark you've got for could've, should've, would've.

    He's a superstar in anyone's language.
     
    Mr Fourex, Aug 5, 2014
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  6. Magic AJ Parker

    That was just him going from doing sfa to becoming the elite player he was at fullback. I said at the time the fapping over his performances was excessive.

    He's a gun player not saying otherwise, one of the best in the world so not many are going to agree with me but I reckon he could've been an immortal and his career hasn't gone how I thought it would.
     
    Magic, Aug 5, 2014
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  7. Jazz NC Smith

    Those performances were as dominant as what Jarryd Hayne has produced over a similar period.
     
    Jazz, Aug 5, 2014
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  8. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    How anyone can criticise Inglis for non-involvment and then go on to use Jaryd Hayne as an example of what a player should be doing is beyond me.

    Hayne has been lambasted for years for not getting involved enough for the Eels.
     
    Mr Fourex, Aug 6, 2014
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  9. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Bullshit, watch the games don't just listen to the media. Haynes been a weapon since turning out for Fiji years ago. As soon as he's not racking up 5 try assists a game he's got an attitude problem. I think it's more often a case of being surrounded by shit cunts.
     
    Sultan Pepper, Aug 6, 2014
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  10. Jazz NC Smith

    ^^ Exactly that. The expectation since 2009 is that Hayne has to side-step multiple opposition players and score a try or he is underachieving. The shit he copped in 2010, despite an excellent season, is a perfect example of that.

    Realistically, Parramatta's reliance on Hayne to be a primary playmaker means that he probably has a higher involvement than most fullbacks around. When people talk about Hayne's lack of involvement, I've generally interpret it as "I watched the 5 minute highlight package of the Eel's game and didn't see that much of Hayne".
     
    Jazz, Aug 6, 2014
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  11. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Hayne's involvement was significantly reduced under Stuart in general, but I think we now have conclusive evidence to suggest it was a coaching problem.
     
    Cribbage, Aug 6, 2014
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  12. Jazz NC Smith

    Yeah definitely but comments like "lambasted for years for not getting involved enough for the Eels" are not astute observations about the role of a fullback in a Ricky Stuart-system, they are the generic criticisms of Hayne that have been coming since 2010.
     
    Jazz, Aug 6, 2014
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  13. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Of all the different Hayne incarnations, I think I actually rated the Kearney-coached version the highest. Kearney is a truly terrible coach but he certainly knew how to get the best out of Hayne IMO.

    To be fair to Arthur though, getting the best out of Hayne and Paulo at the same time is quite a difficult thing to balance.
     
    Cribbage, Aug 6, 2014
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  14. Jazz NC Smith

    Getting the best out of Joseph Paulo is Jack Gibson-quality coaching.
     
    Jazz, Aug 6, 2014
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  15. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Who coached the USA World Cup side? Get him in the hall of fame pronto, whoever it was. :p
     
    Cribbage, Aug 6, 2014
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  16. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    Terry Matterson; current assistant at the Cows.
     
    jazman84, Aug 6, 2014
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  17. Jazz NC Smith

    I assume Paulo did well for the USA because the standard of most of their games was reserve grade.

    Reserve grade god and first grade nincompoop.
     
    Jazz, Aug 6, 2014
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  18. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Wash your mouth out with Paulo; this must never be spoken of.
     
    Cribbage, Aug 6, 2014
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  19. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Joseph Paulo is Phil Hughes
     
    Sultan Pepper, Aug 6, 2014
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  20. Benny BS Read

    Paulo benefitted hugely by being easily the best player in.his side and therefore deserving copious pill with a team styled to play around him

    Little to lose chancing his arm etc
     
    Benny, Aug 6, 2014
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