Brisbane Broncos thread on how to lose a GI and a Lock and a semi final

He was considered a footballer as compared to Hoffman, according to some. What I'm saying is it shows rather clearly that Griffin has not been opting for the "homogeneous athletes" when it comes to the spine. Hoffman's more of an athlete than any spine player we've had for years until Barba came along. EWS seems to think this is just the latest evolution in a warped view maintained by Griffin about what you can do with a FG side. It's as far back as the end on 2012 that he tried to inject more ball playing prowess in to the spine, and of course we can't forget buying Prince last year.

Think it right or think it wrong, it's clear what it was. To say we need to try and play football this year carries an implication that I quite frankly do not understand at all.

 

Thank you ^. Perry the voice of reason

And ftr, neither I nor EWS ever used the word "natural." By footballer we mean exactly what fans of the sweet science mean when they say "he's a boxer." We're talking about being proficient in the variety of skills. You can be naturally talented without being a footballer. In fact this is most often the case IMO. Natural ability tends more towards the physical aspects - speed, acceleration, agility etc. There are naturally talented players as far as the horizon. Footballers are something different. Of course some of them are naturally talented - Johns, Lewis, Daley, Lockyer, but a lot of them have to acquire the skills through years of practice.

I wouldn't go as far as to designate Norman as "a footballer" but he's a lot more of one than Hoffman. That was the basis of the argument made by many people on here in favour of Norman over Hoffman.

 

In my experience the term naturally talented is used far more concerning players like Inglis and Barba and Slater than halves or ball players. Of course there are naturally talented footballers, like I said. Jason Smith, one of my favourite players of all time, would be an even better example than Cragie. But these blokes are far fewer in number than the naturally talented athletes IMO.

 

IMO the majority of athletic players that come through are naturally talented. And the majority of naturally talented players, are athletes. You're far more likely to see some young kid with natural speed and agility than a naturally talented ball player IMO.

Or perhaps I'm missing your distinction.