RWC Knockout Stages

Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by Squeaks, Oct 12, 2015.

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  1. spark!ptz PH Spark

    fair play to argentina. they're gonna be a serious threat in four years.
     
    spark!ptz, Oct 26, 2015
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  2. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    Our cover defence was immence. They carved us up but we kept em tryless.
     
    jazman84, Oct 26, 2015
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  3. Notsure SM Green

    Defence was awesome. Argentina just tried to play a bit too loose for a semi final. I think they just lack a bit of grunt to break down a well structured defence. They have the talent out wide but their wingers get a lot of ball behind the advantage line.
     
    Notsure, Oct 26, 2015
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  4. Benny BS Read

    Gun stuff
     
    Benny, Oct 26, 2015
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  5. Ged GEC King

    Has anyone ever gone to Twickenham with a wheelchair bound ticket? Cheapest tickets to the final online by a country a mile are these two wheelchair bound tickets and I just want to know the details. Already looked and I can hire a wheelchair for 30 quid. But does only one person need to be wheelchair bound or both? Is there chairs? Like can i just run crutches? What's the story. Seriously tempted?
     
    Ged, Oct 26, 2015
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  6. cloughie09 TJ Clough

    Go for it lad, why not. Although will need photo of you lol
     
    cloughie09, Oct 26, 2015
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  7. Squeaks ZW Poole

    Poor tactics from the Argies, it's one thing to run in your own half and another from your own 22. Argentina looked so good when they got some go forward the odd time but their ball was too slow and forward runners waaaaay too deep. Aussie were also rushing so hard so they just needed to drop in some grubbers behind the wingers (who were also rushing up and in) just like the All Blacks did.

    Key for the All Blacks is just like we did a couple of years ago - run at Pocock! He can't get turnovers if he has to tackle all day, Hooper is a lot easier to clean out.
     
    Squeaks, Oct 26, 2015
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  8. Julian BJ Taylor

    Keep talking them up all you want but they just got done 5 tries to zip in a semi final. Deserve every bit of pain and sadness for playing the negative penalty goal game; ditto the springboks.
     
    Julian, Oct 26, 2015
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  9. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I thought the tackler has even more rights over the ball?
     
    Hurricane, Oct 26, 2015
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  10. Mike ML Martyn

    Argentina made thirteen clean breaks in the game, and guys like Cordero, Sanchez, Tuculet etc looked dangerous at times. Hardly negative play. Australia's defence just got back and covered really well. South Africa on the other hand just straight up never looked likely with ball in hand and penalties/drop goals were the only way they were going to win.
     
    Mike, Oct 26, 2015
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  11. Starris ER Starris

    Yeah I only saw the second half and they seemed to be playing at a hell of a pace.

    shame they didn't score a few... credit to the Australian defense though.
     
    Starris, Oct 26, 2015
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  12. SmellyStuff MP Chung

    To say Argentina played negatively does them a great injustice IMO. Australia deserved to win, especially after taking advantage of Argentina's suicidal tactics in the first half but there were a couple of opportunities where if the Pumas had had just that extra 10% composure they would have scored. Hernandez's one-handed offload when he had the chance to make a two-handed pass to Tuculet on the outside at the end of the first half was the most glaring example of this. Imhoff butchered an excellent opportunity too IIRC. Agree with Mike, I thought Cordero looked good with ball in hand (although his quick tap knock-on was simply moronic and was deservedly punished), and Amorosino made a good break in the second half which again, should have been converted if Argentina had a bit more composure.

    Not to take anything away from Australia though, their defence (in particular their scrambling defence) was superb, and the front-row replacements really shored up the scrum after coming on. Hoping for another belter next week.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2015
    SmellyStuff, Oct 26, 2015
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  13. Notsure SM Green

    Argentina actually did the opposite. They were too positive at times. I think they just tried to rehash how they played against Ireland and hoped that it would work against Australia as well. If you want to look at why they lost it was because they conceded 21 turnovers and they lack a big strong ball runner. Most teams don't pick a play maker at second five anymore. Most teams like to have a strong ball runner there like Nonu. Obviously we have Giteau at 12 but we make up for that by picking Kuridrani at 13. Argentina just don't have players like that.
     
    Notsure, Oct 26, 2015
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  14. SmellyStuff MP Chung

    Yeah, so often in the first half the Pumas were sending the ball out wide and were operating 10-15 metres behind the advantage line. Never going to score tries like that.
     
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    SmellyStuff, Oct 26, 2015
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  15. Julian BJ Taylor

    Too positive? Taking every single opportunity for a penalty goal, rather than back yourself to score the try is the very definition of negative.
     
    Julian, Oct 26, 2015
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  16. Julian BJ Taylor

    And IF Australia had have scored 5 more tries, they would have scored 5 more tries.
     
    Julian, Oct 26, 2015
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  17. SmellyStuff MP Chung

    Yeah that has no relevance as to whether Argentina were negative or not. The Pumas built up those missed opportunities by running from within their own half. Totally different to the Springboks who kicked away possession as soon as they touched the ball and showed no intent at all to run from anywhere on the field let alone from within their half.
     
    SmellyStuff, Oct 26, 2015
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  18. SmellyStuff MP Chung

    Some will argue that giving away a whole load of penalties in your own half to stop the opposition from playing can be considered negative. Its an accusation levelled against the All Blacks and Richie McCaw in particular time and time again
     
    SmellyStuff, Oct 26, 2015
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  19. Squeaks ZW Poole

    They do in the fact that they don't have to come in from behind. But at international level (almost at any level) it is so hard and you have to be really fast to tackle someone and get on the ball before someone is cleaning you out.

    What Pocock does is stand beside the tackler and as soon as the guy hits the ground is all over the ball. It means he doesn't have to give the ball carrier any right to place the ball as he wasn't the tackler. He is so strong over the ball and does this better than anyone I've ever seen, even McCaw.
     
    Squeaks, Oct 26, 2015
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  20. Choco C Man

    We kinda DID the Argies
     
    Choco, Oct 26, 2015
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