Road to World Cup 2015

Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by Magrat Garlick, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. Howe JHF Howe

    Yeah, but it's messy at the edges. What makes Samoa tier 2 and Scotland tier 1?
     
  2. Arheiner SIA Yates

    Location.
     
  3. Magrat Garlick M Garlick

    Constantly changing rules to fit a select group of nations is a bit corrupt tbh.
     
  4. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Tell that to England Australia and India.
     
  5. Jabba HJ Bots

    New Zealand is looking insanely strong. Slade putting real pressure on Cruden and I'd take him because he can cover 10,12,wing and 15. Reckon a large chunk of the squad is already in place which is great to see.


    Outside Backs: Dagg, Smith, Savea, Jane
    Midfielders: Nonu, Smith
    Flyhalfs: Carter, Barrett
    Scrumhalfs: Smith, Perenara, Kerr Barlow

    Backrowers: Read,McCaw,Messam,Cane
    Locks: Whitelock, Rettalick, Romano
    Hookers: Coles, Mealamu
    Props: Franks,Franks, Woodcock, Faumuina, Crockett

    leaves 2 forward spots;
    Luatua vs Kaino
    Hooker

    2 back spots
    Cruden vs Slade
    midfield option (likely SBW)
     
  6. The Boy Brumby ZJ Brumby

    NZ almost always go into the tournament as favs, tbf.

    Rightly so.

    Suspect 91 & (maybe) 03 were the only exceptions, and even then there was a fag paper between the Wobblies and NZ in former and Us & NZ in the latter beforehand.
     
  7. Starris ER Starris

    Hmmmm hooker is a worry... and an important position especially for lineouts and scrums!!!
     
  8. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    This.

    Australia seem to be one of the better road teams going as far as these tournaments go. NZ not so much.

    Best thing that can happen to us between now and then is that we lose a tri nations tournament. We tend to get blown away by teams who rise to the occassion against us.

    I was in NZ in 2007 when we lost. Strangely there was no national day of mourning. Just bitter bitter moaning and whining about the reffing. I was embarassed by it. We lost fair and square.

    Our team must be quite old by now hang on brb

    McCaw will be 34 how long can the man keep playing. I don't really remember older guys in the ABs before.

    Conrad will be 33

    Nonu 32

    Mealamu will be 36 will be surprised if he will still be around next year.

    Dan Carter 33 - I don't think that matters for a fly half, but with his injuy proneness he won't be playing (yes I know we have good replacements - but they lack his experience - and both of them need as many games as they can get under their belt this year - don't even pick Carter if he comes back this year IMO)
     
  9. Jabba HJ Bots

    That's the core minus Read. Every other position is relatively young only position potentially not is the props, it's a great mix of experience and x factor
     
  10. Howe JHF Howe

    Fiji have joined group A, along with England, Wales and Australia. Ince they've beaten Italy and smashed Tonga this summer it looks like the tough group just got tougher
     
  11. Weeman27bob BE Force

    Current IRB Rankings:

    Group A

    Australia - 3
    England - 4
    Wales - 6
    Fiji - 10
    Qualifier - 26

    Group B

    South Africa - 2
    Samoa - 9
    Scotland - 8
    Japan - 10
    United States 18

    Group C

    New Zealand - 1
    Argentina - 12
    Tonga - 13
    Georgia - 15
    Africa 1 - 30

    Group D

    France - 7
    Ireland - 5
    Italy - 14
    Canada - 17
    Romania - 16


    Averages

    Group A: 9.8
    Group B: 9.4
    Group C: 14.2
    Group D: 11.8
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2014
  12. Magrat Garlick M Garlick

    Well New Zealand would go through unbeaten anyway.

    Do they cross pool C and D for the quarterfinals?
     
  13. Weeman27bob BE Force

    Yes.
     
  14. The Boy Brumby ZJ Brumby

    Big incentive to win the group to avoid (in all probability) the Saffers in the QFs.

    Who's the qualifier likely to be? Repercharge side, I believe?
     
  15. Weeman27bob BE Force

    There's a playoff tournament between Uruguay, Hong Kong, Russia and then whichever one of Namibia, Madagascar, Kenya and Zimbabwe finish second in the African qualifying group.

    My guess would be Russia.
     
  16. Magrat Garlick M Garlick

    Kenya beat Namibia 29-22, are favourites to qualify directly now.
     
  17. Howe JHF Howe

    Just had a look at what happened to Jacques Burger and it turns out he's not involved unfort. Would be the best player by a distance in that comp.

    Also found these matches are being shown live on the IRB website, if anyone's interested.
     
  18. Roaddogg AJ Izett

    Was hoping for Madagascar lol
     
  19. Magrat Garlick M Garlick

    Weren't we all (except the commentators)

    They got whupped by Zimbabwe, 57-22. Got a good crowd in again though.
     
  20. MrPrez CM Dyer

    Wow, interesting.

    I imagine Zim could be a shout tbh, they seem to breed a surprisingly large number of players which SA steal. Must have a somewhat respectable rugby infrastructure (in an african context).
     

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