RD3: Cronulla v Manly

Discussion in 'Matches' started by crowley, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. AVA T Delonge

    So in your opinion, two identical tackles should be graded completely differently if one player gets injured and one doesn't?
     
  2. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    The difference in grading should reflect the difference in the consequence. The tackles obviously aren't identical if one results in injury and the other doesn't.

    The alternative is judging based on potential for harm. Why then shouldn't a swinging arm which is so high that it misses the target not be reprimanded, as in the example I mentioned involving Gallen? If he connected, Nielsen could've been knocked out cold.
     
  3. Old Mate M Perry

    Yeah agree with magic and Alec here, that's tackle was pretty brutal. What's the difference in doing a spear tackle but the cunt doesn't get hurt and that? Definitely a dangerous throw but 7 weeks is a bit much, maybe like 2-5 or something.
     
  4. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    What's the difference between throwing a lazy arm out and missing to throwing an arm out and hitting someone then?
     
  5. Old Mate M Perry

    I guess a lazy arm that misses doesn't make someone do a 360 and walk away.
     
  6. Alec AD Funkotron

    It wasn't a 7 week charge though, it was a Grade 4, with a fuckload of carry over points and previous offenses.
     
  7. SM MD Dorn

    Worst bit was he took 0 interest in returning him safely to the ground. Just threw him over his shoulder pretty much
     
  8. Magic AJ Parker

    The potential of injury for the one that misses is maybe some wind burn if he swings hard enough, for the one that hits maybe a broken jaw or a fractured eye socket.

    Are you saying you're in support of the following;

    Frank Pritchard - Grade 1 (David Simmons left the field with injury)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d3feuQiUYU


    Manu Vatuvei - No charge (Tonga played on)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpNFW14TB0c


    No difference in the incidents yet because of the lottery of an injury one gets a suspension one doesn't.
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2012
  9. Old Mate M Perry

    Good post.
     
  10. Raide KN Rask

    Once de gois had been sent in motion it would have required a monster effort to reverse the throw, it happened so quickly.
     
  11. Raide KN Rask

    Beating manly should definitely help that cause.
     
  12. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Personally, I don't think either should've been charged. They were both accidental, if a little careless afaic. Penalty sufficient.

    But more to the point. How do you not notice the fact that the chance of doing something dangerous at all is just as much a lottery as whether an injury occurs from a dangerous act? You imply it's absurd to base judgement on resulting injury. It's absolutely no different than judging it on random accidental contact.

    If you want to argue your point properly then please tell me how you can charge a player for doing something potentially dangerous like what Vatuvei did, but not what Gallen did to Nielsen. Gallen's was potentially just as dangerous. And one could argue intent given that Gallen missed his head completely, that's how high his swinging arm was.
     
  13. Cribbage RG Cribb

    MF cevnos the debate.
     
  14. AVA T Delonge

  15. SM MD Dorn

    Cevno's? (obviously know who he is)
     
  16. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Pardon?
     
  17. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    I'm saying they should both be penalised, as should something like Gallens attempted arm on Nielsen that MF keeps bringing up. There was only one way that was going to end if Gallen connected. I'm off the opinion that you've got to punish these things before the injury happens, not because an injury happens.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2012
  18. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    Fuck I hate it when the Sharks win, cause I never tip them.
     
  19. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Good thing I did, I fucked up most of my others.
     
  20. Raide KN Rask

    I've tipped the Sharkies all 3 rounds so far. Of most of the squads I reckon their's is one of the better ones to cause an upset.
     

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