Oi. Why the fuck do you get points for a bye?

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by KimmorleyKiller, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. KimmorleyKiller XX Meister

    Is the NRL the full quid?
     
    KimmorleyKiller, Jul 14, 2013
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  2. Colesy BL Hornby

    :laugh:
     
    Colesy, Jul 14, 2013
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  3. Magic AJ Parker

    Who cares?

    At the end of the day it doesn't make a difference.
     
    Magic, Jul 14, 2013
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  4. Rego RS Hutchinson

    So that you can make better comparisons on the points tables with teams having played 1 game more or less than others.
     
    Rego, Jul 14, 2013
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  5. KimmorleyKiller XX Meister

    I care. Obviously. Why the fuck do you think I made a thread about it?
     
    KimmorleyKiller, Jul 14, 2013
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  6. Cribbage RG Cribb

    If you give points for the bye, it gives a false impression at the bottom of the ladder. Teams at the bottom lose more than they win so the assumed win as such when a team doesn't play skews the ladder.

    If you don't give points for the bye, however, it gives a false impression at the top of the ladder. Teams at the top win more than they lose so they were to have played that week, it's more likely they would've won than lost.

    At the end of the season it obviously makes no difference at all, but the logic behind it is the idea that people care more about the top of the ladder being accurate than the bottom mid-season.

    I like to sort the ladder by win% (with a draw counting as a half a win) mid-season when some teams have had more byes than others, but I'm a nerd.
     
    Cribbage, Jul 14, 2013
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  7. KimmorleyKiller XX Meister

    It's the principle. Ask any Melbourne player - you don't realise how special points are until the NRL takes them away. They're like a flower that needs to be gently curated in order to blossom. You should only ever get points if you win a game of rugby league. The draw AND the bye can fuck right off.
     
    KimmorleyKiller, Jul 14, 2013
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  8. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Why were Melbournes bye points stripped? How did them being over the cap get them those 4 ponts?
     
    Boobidy, Jul 14, 2013
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  9. The Boy Brumby ZJ Brumby

    Obviously it's just a convention now, but I vaguely recall reading somewhere that the original idea behind teams getting points for byes came from leagues with odd numbers in.

    If a league has an odd number of participants the team without a fixture in the first week was playing catch up from the get go through no fault of their own, hence the points for the bye.
     
    The Boy Brumby, Jul 15, 2013
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  10. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Here's an idea:

    There's an even number of NRL sides, so fuck the bye off all together!
     
    Sultan Pepper, Jul 15, 2013
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  11. Magic AJ Parker

    Then you just have even more games affected by origin, I think the byes are good. Gives the players a chance to freshen up mid-season and limits the amount of games affected by origin.
     
    Magic, Jul 15, 2013
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  12. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    I actually don't think the current set up is fair. Bring in 2 split rounds, with origin 3 on a stand alone weekend and screen some pacific cup games, under 20's origin, residents game etc.
     
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    Sultan Pepper, Jul 15, 2013
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  13. Tartmaster AJ James

    Stand alone weeks for origins.
    I don't know how we don't have this already.

    We get one for the test and shitty/cuntry which no one cares about, but arguably the 3 biggest games of te year are crammed in around club games, it literally makes 0 sense.
     
    Tartmaster, Jul 15, 2013
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  14. Magic AJ Parker

    That's a different argument, byes serve their purpose well atm.
     
    Magic, Jul 15, 2013
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  15. Sultan Pepper HG Emm


    It's insane really.
     
    Sultan Pepper, Jul 15, 2013
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  16. Tartmaster AJ James

    That's like saying you can drive with your knees if you cut your hands off.
    While technically true, it's still fucking idiotic that you're in that position.
     
    Tartmaster, Jul 15, 2013
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  17. Lukic L Popovic

    I don't get why some byes are on the week after origin where the players aren't even missing.
     
    Lukic, Jul 15, 2013
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  18. Magic AJ Parker

    No its not, its like saying I'm not arguing hypothetical solutions I was only disagreeing with his assertion made on byes in the current climate.
     
    Magic, Jul 15, 2013
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  19. Andato BJT Manera

    Because it is more likely to result in injuries playing so soon after Origin.
     
    Andato, Jul 15, 2013
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  20. Tartmaster AJ James

    Hmmm

    Touché my friend, touché.
     
    Tartmaster, Jul 15, 2013
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