What were Tywin and Stannis' roles? We couldn't communicate with Stannis and didn't even know about Tywin. >_>
Howe did well to convince everyone at the end, btw. He didn't give any defense against my reasoning, but everyone jumped on it.
I think Howe was converted, and Tywin turned. It was 5/15 I think with lukic being able to sacrifice himself to convert someone (howe) and then tywin turning.
curious as to why tywin turned but jaime didn't. if gregor clegane stayed in the game wonder if he'd have turned.
So tywin turned upon being killed by his own? makes sense. Although thought there'd be more of a 'group' element with you two (& gregor?) turning. p.s. ATHLAI WAFC. overrode the lynch of lukic to kill me, who was town, but moreso it gave lukic the opporunity to sacrifice himself to convert howe. If Athlai hadn't done that, we'd have had two more town (me, howe) and 1 less maf (howe). mad king itbt
Notes: - I think the town was lost quite early on. Losing too many important town members early along with Eds being revealed (and getting massive suspicion on him) cost you guys time. - mariner probably could have won the game for the town last day by sacrificing himself. His ability stops night kills for the night after his death. - Mafia were at most going to have 8 players. Ended up not going over 5. - Ava was bloody unlucky with his power. 1/3 chance of learning what alignment a person had and didn't get it. - Once Fungus got to the last 7 I was running the assumption he would win it, since he is a godfather. Mafia MVP: Athlai, changing the lynch to skippos was just a masterful piece of self-suicide. But Athlai actually playing character was so, so good. Town MVP: BoyBlunder, figured out nearly everything. Knew Eds would turn, knew Raide did turn. All while having a fairly tame power. Worst: I want to say Klonam because of the daft hit on Cevno first night. That was fairly stupid given Cevno would have been really useful later on.
If he dies/get lynched all night kills the following night don't go through. Tywin, basic turncoat. Once he got lynched he'd turn. 5/15 with the mafia able to recruit one member (but lose Lukic by doing so) and three being able to switch with the right condition. Tywin - Gets lynched (happened) Gregor - Tywin turns (happened but he was dead.) Jaime - Has to kill Aerys. (not even close.) Eds was actually a basic doctor so long as he didn't find Athlai. Mafia never got above 5 members iirc. As above.
Wtf at all these imbalanced games? Even at 5/15, that's heavily in mafia's favour just based on numbers. You'd need REALLY good town powers and basically no mafia powers to call that balanced. With up to three others that can turn and one active recruitment, there is no way you can call it balanced.