Ivan Cleary

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by kingdamo, Jun 7, 2009.

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  1. Hybrid A Kolar

    SM, Mannering is one of the NRL's top 2nd rowers, ie he's not a centre IMO.

    You should keep Ropati there and have a backrow of Mannering/Matulino/Luck.
     
    Hybrid, Jun 8, 2009
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  2. Incey BC Jacobs

    Drop Lillyman FFS.
     
    Incey, Jun 8, 2009
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  3. SM MD Dorn

    The warriors are that shit that they have to move the best 2nd rowers in the centres.

    If they keep Ropati in the centres, barr a drastic handling turn around, the great wingers like Vatuvei will never get the ball
     
    SM, Jun 8, 2009
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  4. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    So many QLD'ers stick up for Moon and a lot of people just sheep along with them. At NRL level he just doesn't seem to be good enough in my eyes. I think he and Fein in the halves and Henderson at hooker would've at leats given the Warriors some consistency and a platform to build for the future.
     
    Sultan Pepper, Jun 8, 2009
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  5. SM MD Dorn

    Consistantcy, platform for the future...

    Never seen it at the Warriors tbh
     
    SM, Jun 8, 2009
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  6. Tonio AX Kirikiri

    I couldn't believe how bad we played yesterday. Nothing seemed to be going our way, the "Toyota Park turnstile" Jerome Ropati really needs to learn not to rush up on defence and to catch a bloody ball. Ivan really needs to have his half-time speech before the game because they seem quite flat when they start.

    To change this I would start Hohaia, somewhere, anywhere just start him. I'd quite like him in the halves, but with Fien.

    1. McKinnon
    2. Locke
    3. Ah Van (I would rather have someone else, but having two centres debuting in a game would not be good IMO)
    4. Likiliki (He has been dominant in U20's, deserves a run with Ropati/Moon being injured)
    5. Vatuvei
    6. Hohaia
    7. Fien
    8. Packer
    9. Henderson
    10. Price (c)
    11. Mannering
    12. Matulino
    13. Luck

    14. Heremaia (played bloody well yesterday, got us a few repeat sets and we actually looked like setting things up yesterday once he got in to 6. Also covers the halves and hooker in case of injuries.)
    15. Rapira
    16. Royal
    17. Ta'ai (Should have another crack in first grade, he is strong and should just run straight, he should be told not to offload the ball for the first few sets though)
     
    Tonio, Jun 8, 2009
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  7. Tonio AX Kirikiri

    Ivan will never make those changes though, it would be stupid having wholesale changes right now.
     
    Tonio, Jun 8, 2009
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  8. SM MD Dorn

    Rapira is too good for the bench...

    As for Ah Van, /Fpalm

    Kirk and Ah Van should never play ever again for any NRL team
     
    SM, Jun 8, 2009
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  9. Tonio AX Kirikiri

    Well would you really have two debutants in the centres in one match?
     
    Tonio, Jun 8, 2009
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  10. SM MD Dorn

    Reckon Vatuvei could be decent in the centres, keeping Locke and Kemp on the wings...

    Mannering needs to go in the centres. The Warriors have heaps of quality 2nd rowers, and can afford to put Mannering in the centres
     
    SM, Jun 8, 2009
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  11. Tonio AX Kirikiri

    Nah, Vatuvei should stay on the wing. If Mannering goes to the centres then he should be there for the whole game and not be chopping and changing every 20 minutes. Pisses me off!
     
    Tonio, Jun 8, 2009
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  12. Ged GEC King

    I'm the first to admit that I'm ridiculously biased when it comes to Moon. I was in the same cricket team as him for years and know him personally. I think he gets a lot of undue criticism though. He's just turned 21 and has already played almost 50 games over the past 3 years. Most first graders don't make grade until they're his age. He was ****ed around at the broncos being forced to play out of position. The fact that he absolutely dominated the qld cup means that he should be given time in first grade. He certainly has the defensive capabilities and it jsut seems the little things that **** him over. I also think that he's a bit too lazy for the nrl in a few things he does like just not backing up after passing the ball or not following the play once the ball's been shifted outside of him.
     
    Ged, Jun 8, 2009
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  13. lozzana LD Lozzana

    TBH I have absolutely no idea why Witt and was released why Fien has been told to **** off especially after their performances when they were the halves towards the back end of last season. I don’t know what Fien has done but he has clearly pissed someone off to be told to “get ****ed and find a new club†and then dropped altogether when he had done nothing wrong on the field. He most likely won’t be back in First grade this season and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets released early. The halves are ****ed, Stacy is too old and slow and Grant Rovelli II (Joel Moon) is just shit. Ropati will come good again once he buys some new hands; he pretty much guarantees at least 2 errors per game. In the mean time I wouldn’t mind seeing Kirk get an extended run in the centres. Apart from being a scrawny little **** I don’t see anything wrong with him getting a go there. I wouldn’t mind seeing Foran given a go in the halves because hopefully Grant Rovelli II (Joel Moon) and his little pussy buddy Kemp are never selected in FG again. Both those lads will eventually end up permanently in the Vulcans and will be released once there contracts run out and will spend their future playing in the QLD or NSW cup, put your house on it.
     
    lozzana, Jun 8, 2009
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  14. SM MD Dorn

    Grant Rovelli II :lol:
     
    SM, Jun 9, 2009
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