Dragons V Rorters

Discussion in 'Matches' started by Colesy, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    No way. Really?

    Is "Captain obvious" or "Captain redundancy" tattooed on your forehead?

    Then why not simply skip to prelims? Why not just have the top 4 play two prelims to see who goes into the GF?

    The prelims are designed for the top 4 teams? What a crock of shit. Prelims are there for the teams who play the best in the finals, once there.

    This is all theoretical. Quality in the different competitions, is irrelevant.

    I take it you mean "opposition"? You are rewarded. You cannot be knocked out. You get to play at home, against supposedly the weakest team of the 8. If you win you go straight through to a home prelim. What ****ing more do you want? That's more than enough. The chances of 1st and 2nd having to play in the second week is much higher in AFL because they play 3rd an 4th.

    It's a practice because they can afford to lose it and then play them again in the final.

    So the logic is, 5th should get knocked out after to losing to 8th, because that's the way it works? That's not an answer you tard.

    lol, first you said it's fact, now you say it's widespread opinion. Stop speaking shit you clown.
     
  2. Marto RK Fittaman

    Yes, really. You don't hear muppets talking about the top 5 or the top 3 do ya.

    No it isn't. Is "Captain muttonhead" tattooed on your forehead?

    You just can't simply skedaddle to it, you need to predispose which two teams out of the top 4 get the home prelims. The prelims are there for the 4 transcendent teams to play in them. The AFL has a much higher consummation rate than the NRL at having the competitions 4 best teams playing in the prelim and this due to having the preeminant finals system.

    Yes I did mean opposition, but really what I should have said was iconoclasts. And as I keep saying the NRL's teams are very close to eachother. We saw this last season when the Eels beat the Dragons. If you finish top after 26 long rounds then you deserve more than just a home quarter final, you deserve a home semi final if you get maltreated. And that's where the McIntrye system is found wanting.

    A home prelim is a huge advantage. Yes if you do lose you get a home semi, as you should, because you've procured that spot in the top 4. No way should they be sending you on the road because you lost the first week.

    Only a nincompoop would call it a practice match.

    5th gets a home final against the worst team in the 8. If they aren't sterling enough for the top 4 and they lose to 8th then they are ratherishly eliminated. This AFL system defecates all over the McIntyre.

    There's a dickload of NRL fans who hate this stupid finals system. The NRL has fallen behind the times and this is yet another reason why the AFL is the number 1 footy code in Australia and the NRL isn't.

    Only a massive copulatory organ would prefer it to the system the AFL has.
     
  3. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    They would if we had a top 10 or a top 6. Point is, stop drawing an imaginary line at 4.

    No you don't. Based on your previous logic, give the home matches to the highest ranked teams - 1st and 2nd.

    Yeah, it's mainly due to rewarding the top 4 teams for losing.

    Iconoclasts?

    I like how you continue to mention the closeness of the NRL as compared to the AFL and don't draw any correlation with the point above about "consummation" of the top 4.

    Again, "now way" is not an argument.

    It is, by definition, a practice, retard.

    "Ratherishly"? Stop making up, and using words, that you don't understand.

    Again, thank you for proving my point. You're drawing an unfair, imaginary line between 4th and 5th. The difference between finishing 4th or 5th, as opposed to 5th or 6th, is huge.

    Do they have any intelligent thoughts on the matter, seeing how you clearly don't?

    What a crock of absolute shit. Pure hyperbole.

    The McIntyre system rewards teams that play the best in the finals series. The AFL system is far too rewarding of regular season finishing spots. You can end up with a ridiculous scenario of 8th getting punished for doing what 4th couldn't (beat a team that finished 3 spots ahead), and 4th getting rewarded (home semi) for losing, and then getting punished (away prelim against 2nd or 3rd) for winning.

    Or you can end up with 8th beating 5th (away), then beating 1st (away), then beating 2nd (away) just to make the final. 8th beats 5th and 1st away from home and still has to play against 2nd away from home? GMAFB. - As opposed to 4th beating 1st a week earlier, it automatically gets a home prelim ffs. 8th beats 5th and 1st away from home and gets a thrown to the lions, while 4th does less and waltzes through to week 3 at home (to, quite possibly, play 6th or 7th). Again GMAFB.

    With that sort of nonsense you might as well do what I said above, forget the first two weeks and just play prelims as it's obvious the system artificially rewards the top 4. Their reward ought to be home matches in week 1 against weaker opposition, and safety from sudden death. Nothing more. Rewarding them for losing is absurd.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2010
  4. Cribbage RG Cribb

    If you want to keep talking about the merits of the different finals systems you're well welcome to, but if you want to the AFL v NRL game again I'll cockblock you. There are plenty of shit threads for you to do that in; don't drag it into NRL match threads.
     
  5. Blocka ZA Berkuta

    Is Marto intellectually disabled?
     
  6. Colesy BL Hornby

    No, but i'm certain that MF is.
     
  7. Toolman TR Man

    I honestly think there's something seriously wrong with MF...
     
  8. Blocka ZA Berkuta

    I already knew that.
     
  9. Colesy BL Hornby

    Everything Marto said made perfect sense to me.
     
  10. Marto RK Fittaman

    I'll **** you with scissors.


    You just want to be different don't you. It's the top 4, they get a better advantage, deal with it.

    Yes you do. You have 4 quality teams playing to see who gets that all important home Prelim, first week of the finals. Super exciting stuff, that creates massive crowds. And then you have the elimination finals - even more exciting because it's do or die.

    The top 4 teams are playing the best teams in the competition though. Doesn't make sense at all to make 4th play 8th away from home in the second week like your example before. Doesn't make sense at all. You play over 20 rounds and finish in the top echolon, you dont deserve to be treated like that.

    Yeah, iconclasts. The top 4 is different to the top 8 lad.

    My argument is that you are playing for an all important home preliminary final. That's my argument you idiot.

    No it's not you stain. If it was a practice match then there wouldn't be such a huge reward for the winner of it...

    I'll stop making up and using those words when you stop being an absolute Eolophus roseicapilla.

    That's the way the system works, the Adelaide Crows, my team, finished 5th two seasons in a row but I can accept that they weren't good enough for 4th. We still got a home final in which last year we smashed Essendon and we came close the following week against Collingwood (4th). We just simply weren't better than them. The final system is much fairer, much easier to understand and much better than the McIntrye.

    They've become sick and tired of this system that is well past it's used by date.

    It's not a crock of shit mate, it's fact.

    So why not play one round and then have an 8 week finals series eh? Why play 26 long rounds if at the end of the day it doesn't mean much? Let's play one round and then the next 8 weeks can be a McIntyre finals system. It'll be awesome, we'll have 1st play 16th, 2nd play 15th etc etc...

    8th plays the 5th best team. 4th plays the best team you moron. Why you should 4th be punished because they couldn't beat the team that finished top and 8th be rewarded over them because they beat 5th. What a load of shit. And the reason they get an away prelim is because they weren't good enough the first week to earn it.

    If you finish 8th after the home and away season then you should have to do it the hard way, if your good enough then ful credit to ya. SGAEADC.

    You continue to prove that you're an idiot.



    At the end of the day the System the AFL has is much, much better than the McIntrye system that is well past it's usd by date. And that is fact ****.
     
  11. Alec AD Funkotron

    I didn't read any of this arguement. Just sayin'.
     
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  13. Speirz DG Speirs

    Why the **** do we need half the teams in the finals anyway? What's wrong with a top 5 or something?
     
  14. Alec AD Funkotron

    There have been a few exciting teams that finished 7/8 over the years. Cowboys in 2004, Parra last year, hell, some people even wanted to support Souffs in their first finals series in 1000 years a while ago. People love watching the underdogs, I guess.
     
  15. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Top 8+more matches+Hayne Crane=increased revenue



    I've always thought it fair that the top half should get a crack at the finals in any comp.
     
  16. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Wawwiors went cwose in 08
     
  17. Speirz DG Speirs

    If you cut it it down thoguh, teams 4/5 would just be the underdogs. Half the reason these teams are "exicting" is because of their inconsistency, and that's not something to be rewarded IMO.
     
  18. Speirz DG Speirs

    Yeah, but I'd just extend the regular season a couple of weeks. The revenue levels wouldn't be the same as a finals match though, obviously.

    I just don't think it's fair to allow the possibility of teams like Brisbane in 07 making it by losing more games than they win, that just seems ridiculous to me.
     
  19. Lukic L Popovic

    If you lose more than you win, should just scrap the team. Make it a top 7 for the season lolz.
     
  20. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    "Deal with it" is not a retort ffs.

    Are you daft or what? I want 4 weeks of finals. You, however, have already said it's about "consummating" the top 4, from the regular season.

    Where did I say otherwise?

    Do you know what an iconoclast is?

    Yeah, based on "no way."

    I can't help it if you can't understand what the word means. Where does it say in that link I gave you, that a "huge reward" discounts it being a practice?

    Do you actually understand that concept of an argument and evidence?

    Please show me the evidence that proves RL is not the number one game in Australia, due to a different, supposedly inferior finals system.

    You've lost track of the argument. I'm not saying 4th should be punished over 8th, due to losing to 1st and 8th beating 5th. I'm saying it's unfair anyway you slice it, and thus the system is utterly flawed.

    Glad you acknowledge that the system isn't about finding the best teams from the finals series.

    Saying it's "much, much" better doesn't make your nonsensical points any more cogent.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2010

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