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Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Maroon_Faithful, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I hardly deal drugs any more. I bankrolled several operations, the last of which is still earning me money but I have no part in it any more than the shareholders of Ford do in building a car. I have never met the "grunts" who did the work and they have no idea who I am. The money is funnelled to offshore accounts and brought back through investments of one kind or another and two businesses in which I am a silent partner. This is a lot of trouble to go to for someone as low on the criminal totem pole as I am. It's way overkill on protection but I'd rather not spend the best years of my life behind bars for tax evasion and trafficking because I was careless. I'm small potatoes. It's only weed after all.

    I could make three times as much investing in cocaine or funding meth labs.
     
  2. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I'd much rather be able to sleep at night though.

    The criminal world is not like it's shown in the movies. Or, if it is, they're only showing the cunts who get done. The old adage that crime doesn't pay is nonsense. It does. You just have to know when to get out. Any "criminal" worth his salt will enter into it, make his fortune (usually a small one) and get out by using the windfall to invest in legit business.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2011
  3. Tartmaster AJ James

    Furry muff.
     
  4. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Pot dealers dealing with off shore bank accounts? Uh huh.
     
  5. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Huh?
     
  6. Midnight EL Volavola

    I think you've been watching to many movies.. :lol:
     
  7. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

  8. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I'll take the blame for the Chetnik discussion but Ged did ask me a direct question. And I'm fairly sure it wasn't I who started the Nth vs Sth pissing contest.
     
  9. Lukic L Popovic

    lol, you can't compare ustasas to cetniks. The Ustasas killed close to a million Serbs, Jews, Romas etc and forcibly expelled people. They were the ones trying to create and ethnically pure state

    The Cetniks simply wanted a Serbia reflective of history and ethnicity. A big difference, they never saught to remove people from the land, they just wanted to unite all Serb populated areas which happened to be Greater Serbia. You should know that the Muslims are Serbs who converted to Islam under Ottoman occupation and up until the last century always considered themselves Muslim Serbs. Krajina and Dalmatia have always been historically Serb and Serb populated. Always considered themselves Serbs too until the whole religion defines your ethnicity idea came along.

    You're overrating the Cetnik collaboration.No doubt they did have a part in collaboration but Serbia was an occupied state. You might as well call everyone in Vichy France a nazi collaborator no, everyone under Axis occupation. The Nazis threatened to kill 100 Cetniks to every dead German soldiers, whether actually killed by Cetniks or Partisans. Of course they aren't going to openly oppose the Nazis and collaborate to an extent.
    Not only that, but it's not like the Partisans were saints either. They were awful as well and killed many non-communist citizens.

    They had the choice of siding with the communists, who were still going around and killing non-communist civilians and fight against the Nazis, who ultimately could've run them to the ground in days if they wanted to or side with the Nazis to an extent and try and salvage as much power as possible until the end of the war.

    Explain to me this, why were there Cetniks from every ex-Yu ethnicity. Muslim cetniks, Croat cetniks, Macedonian, Slovene.. you get the point. Why were there Jew cetniks?

    The vast majority of the deaths that came at the hands of the Cetniks were either agressive Ustasas or Partisans. My grandad has even told me about when the Ustasas came to his town and if not for the few Cetniks in the town, everyone would've been killed. Instead, only a few Serbs died, including his brother, as opposed to the 100 ustasas who were then killed.

    Look, the Cetniks had their problems, sure, but to really compare them to the Nazis, Ustasa etc is a joke. Apples and oranges. Big difference between being forced to do something with the threat of anihilation and your own safety is the best interest, or doing something out of your ability and desire to do so.
     
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  11. Lukic L Popovic

    shit thread anyway. fuck this shit team
     
  12. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Utseya is the real neo nazi war criminal imo.


    :ninja:
     
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  14. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Sadly this is yet another discussion you simply cannot have due to being poisoned in favour of your own. I don't know whether it's indoctrination from your family or what kind of revisionist history you've been reading. What does your grandfather's story prove? It shows nothing more than the analogy I gave about Stalin - Plenty of terrible people and organisations defended innocent people and their country during WW2. It doesn't absolve them of their crimes.

    To answer your question, there were ethnically different members of the Chetniks because they were willing to fight for a Great Yugoslav state. Saying they wanted a Serbia, reflective of history and ethnicity, is merely a nice way of saying that which Mihailovic ordered - The ethnic cleansing of all non-Serbs be they Muslims, Croats, etc. from the Greater Serbia within the Great Yugoslavia.

    Then you go on to talk about coercion from the Nazis. Coercion from the Nazis didn't force them to massacre 30,000 Muslims.

    Incidentally, we have no convincingly accurate figures of those killed by the Ustase or by the Chetniks. The Ustase numbers range from 50,000 to over 1 million. And likewise the same sort of disparity can be seen in the Chetnik numbers - Between 60,000 to over 300,000. Either way, both were killing a fuckload of innocent civilians for ethnic and jingoist reasons.
     
  15. Lukic L Popovic

    Right and who said the cetniks killed these muslims?

    All this shit coming out of the woodworks 1990 and on.
     
  16. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    You're right. Must be propaganda. Clearly it was a CIA machination designed to vilify the Serbs so as to justify the NATO bombings. :confused:
     
  17. Lukic L Popovic

    Cetniks only killed muslims and croats because they're smart.

    If somebody has a gun and they're going to shoot you in 10 seconds time, would you shoot them before the 10 secs is up. I would.

    There's no justifying them sending Jews to camps and actually creating camps of their own, but saying all these muslims/croats that were killed were merely civilians is also a load of shit as well.
     
  18. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    lol...Fuck you're a biased cunt. A propensity to speak utter nonsense like that can only come about from years of indoctrination or one-sided history.
     
  19. Lukic L Popovic

    World against me bro. World against me.
     
  20. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I notice you don't question the veracity of the Ustase numbers.
     

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