2013 Grand Final - Sydney Roosters vs Manly Sea Eagles

Discussion in 'Matches' started by Maroon_Faithful, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Well, you did score 6 minutes later, but yeah, maybe. Personally, I don't give a fuck if a penalty try is given or not, that has to be a sin bin. If you don't go to the bin for that then they might as well get rid of the professional foul category altogether.
     
  2. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    This is partly true. I think teams really band together and put in the extra effort knowing they're one man short. Little extra efforts here and there and the like. So yeah it is rare to see a 12-man defensive line really exploited at the time. It's not, however, uncommon and in fact if you look, really quite normal, to see a team concede points later on in the match. Probably due to fatigue I'd say.
     
  3. nadyone ND O'Dwyer

    That's an interesting point there about fatigue. If the Roosters were down to 12 men for that period & still only trailed 18-8, would they have had the energy to run Manly down?
     
  4. nadyone ND O'Dwyer

    Professional fouls should always be an automatic sin bin. Maybe if the rule was changed where inconclusive doesn't matter, a penalty try is awarded & the player is still sent to the bin.
    It would certainly see actions by Aubusson & the one by Cronk in Origin (which should've been a penalty try, but wasn't), less likely to occur. Particularly if the players know there is effectively a double penalty for such an infringement.
     
  5. Magic AJ Parker

    Pearce defends one out from SBW, if there's no contact he gets the clearest run of the two. There's no doubt about that.

    If you think crabbing sideways and backwards is committing to a defensive decision then so be it, I'll just agree to disagree. Onus should always be on the decoy to either fall short of the line or go through it for mine.

    They put on one try after said incident occurred... It's a stretch because like I already said it's rare to see teams take full advantage of the extra man as highlighted in our earlier clash.

    There's nutters and conspiracy theorists at every club, of course they're out in force after a Grand Final loss. A full season of success and highs to just accept that your team just was second best in that year isn't enough... it must be someone else's fault. FWIW I don't think anyone has ever taken the award of most paranoid off the Manly club.
     
  6. nadyone ND O'Dwyer

    If Horo went through the line, he would've taken out SBW & the try would've been disallowed.

    But it isn't rare at all. You're using a match from early in the season as an example. 1 more try isn't a stretch in my opinion.

    I think Roosters fans took it to a new level. To be belted in a Grand Final & claim the refs cost you is paranoia to the extreme.

    I think the refs certainly helped the Roosters cause this year, but Manly still should not have lost when leading 18-8.
     
  7. Rocks DN Boland

    The first try was perfectly fine :laugh:
     
  8. nadyone ND O'Dwyer

    Anything else to add to that? Or is that the best you can come up with?
     
  9. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Yawn.
     
  10. nadyone ND O'Dwyer

    Ah, just when I thought someone couldn't be more unimaginative, you came along. Cheers.:original:
     
  11. Toolman TR Man

    I like this guy.
     
  12. Rocks DN Boland

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  13. nadyone ND O'Dwyer

    So in layman's terms. You believe the defence was impeded enough to prevent them from providing sufficient cover to stop the try.

    Whereas my conclusion is the defence was sufficiently beaten before the contact & regardless, would not have stopped the try being scored.
     
  14. Magic AJ Parker

    :facepalm:

    To let a side who completed at under 65% in both halves score 4 tries and then complain the refs changed the game isn't a bad effort either.

    Obviously beating Manly 5 times in one season wasn't convincing enough for you.
     
  15. nadyone ND O'Dwyer

    I'm not the only person who thinks the refs were a disgrace.
    But, I also said Manly shouldn't have lost after leading 18-8, regardless of what the refs were like. I guess you missed that point or just simply decided to overlook it because it didn't fit well with your whinge.

    Also, it was 4 times, not 5.
     

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