Game of Thrones (book spoilers)

glad to know you agree about edd

 

from a tv pov it makes some sense, though. having ygritte die *and* stannis arrive would give a sense of double ending syndrome

 

there's gonna be so many delicious tears from the stanstans at westeros.org.

see you in a bit.

 

nah they had to build up the humanity and shizz of the watch. we can't just be told "we're all gonna die", we need to be shown the characters dealing with it. sam wanted to know what it was like to get a root because he's going to die a virgin.

i'm pretty surprised they split it as well but tbh the battle at the wall, if you're going to do it justice, doesn't really fit into one episode anyway. it's a huge chunk of Jon's ASOS arc which is why they had to make stuff up for him to do.

in 20/20 hindsight they could have begun the siege earlier in the season then concluded it in one big episode.

tbh my main gripe with the show is edd's character isn't as awesome as it is in the books. sansa, jaime and edd are the point of the series come on.

 

did ser alliser survive? they were dragging him away while he was shouting at them to defend the gate but we didn't see him die.

 

stay north and work your way vaguely south imo. jon -> bran -> arya -> dany -> tyrion -> Brienne -> lady stoneheart. that's 6 plotlines (brienne + LS together obv) in 66 minutes. that's over 10 minutes per character. easy.

surprised pyp died. when he stayed seated during jon's call for volunteers to crasters i thought he would take the role of bowen marsh. looks like bowen is gonna pull a roose and show up out of nowhere in the season he matters.

edit: im assuming stanstan tears are the reason behind westeros forums crashing.

 

i'm not necessarily disagreeing with this but the point remains that once they structured the episode such that ygritte dying was more or less near the end, they couldn't have another "ending" after such an emotionally heavy moment because that would just be horrible pacing. it's the fundamental issue when you're trying to turn a fairly continuous medium (a book) into a discrete one like an episodic tv series - you gotta pick your endings.

 

ok yeah, but that's a rather larger change than just one episode