Wildcats

Discussion in 'BasketballSim' started by Weeman27bob, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. Weeman27bob BE Force

    Where would I be without you. :wub:
     
  2. Teacups CJ Evans

    Not in my tunnel, that's for sure
     
  3. AVA T Delonge

    Too much Delonge imo.
     
  4. Teacups CJ Evans

  5. Teacups CJ Evans

    Just had a look and Tiger really not doing all that well tbh. For someone who is supposed to be bringing to the table rebounding and an outside threat, he's done poorly on both facets. Shooting 40% and averaging 4.7 RPG.

    Lewis did well starting for the first time, although a bit one dimensional but that will fix itself. He will probably go back to being a terrible shooter but a great playmaker.
    Just had a look at Force's stats and he averages 2.7 RPG which is significantly worse. 6.3 rebounds per 48 minutes is realllyyyyy poor. Tiger has the better per 48 minutes stats. That presents us with quite a problem - our 4s don't know how to rebound. Delonge needs at least 20 minutes. Maybe even increase to 24 to work him into some form because him and Warrington are the only ones who can do something for us on the boards consistently and Delonge wasn't too bad last game.

    Add to that, Goldenhaus isn't a great rebounder either.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2015
  6. Mousey AJ Son

    Code:
     
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    [TD]POS[/TD]
    [TD]G[/TD]
    [TD]MPG[/TD]
    [TD]FGM[/TD]
    [TD]FGA[/TD]
    [TD]FG%[/TD]
    [TD]3PM[/TD]
    [TD]3PA[/TD]
    [TD]3P%[/TD]
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    [TD]Chris Warrington[/TD]
    [TD]WLD[/TD]
    [TD]C[/TD]
    [TD]7[/TD]
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    [TD]8.7[/TD]
    [TD].426[/TD]
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    [TD].773[/TD]
    [TD]3.0[/TD]
    [TD]4.6[/TD]
    [TD]7.6[/TD]
    [TD]0.4[/TD]
    [TD]0.9[/TD]
    [TD]1.3[/TD]
    [TD]1.9[/TD]
    [TD]0.4[/TD]
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    [TD]Teddy Tiger[/TD]
    [TD]WLD[/TD]
    [TD]F[/TD]
    [TD]7[/TD]
    [TD]24.3[/TD]
    [TD]2.7[/TD]
    [TD]6.9[/TD]
    [TD].396[/TD]
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    [TD]1.0[/TD]
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    [TD]0.9[/TD]
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    [TD]2.7[/TD]
    [TD]4.6[/TD]
    [TD]0.9[/TD]
    [TD]0.9[/TD]
    [TD]0.6[/TD]
    [TD]0.9[/TD]
    [TD]2.9[/TD]
    [TD]6.7[/TD]
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    [TD]Bruce Force[/TD]
    [TD]WLD[/TD]
    [TD]F[/TD]
    [TD]6[/TD]
    [TD]20.3[/TD]
    [TD]2.5[/TD]
    [TD]4.2[/TD]
    [TD].600[/TD]
    [TD]0.0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0[/TD]
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    [TD]0.5[/TD]
    [TD]1.0[/TD]
    [TD].500[/TD]
    [TD]0.8[/TD]
    [TD]1.8[/TD]
    [TD]2.7[/TD]
    [TD]0.3[/TD]
    [TD]0.7[/TD]
    [TD]1.2[/TD]
    [TD]1.7[/TD]
    [TD]3.2[/TD]
    [TD]5.5[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Tom DeLonge[/TD]
    [TD]WLD[/TD]
    [TD]C[/TD]
    [TD]7[/TD]
    [TD]19.4[/TD]
    [TD]2.1[/TD]
    [TD]6.0[/TD]
    [TD].357[/TD]
    [TD]0.0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0[/TD]
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    [TD]0.7[/TD]
    [TD]1.3[/TD]
    [TD].556[/TD]
    [TD]2.6[/TD]
    [TD]3.3[/TD]
    [TD]5.9[/TD]
    [TD]0.1[/TD]
    [TD]0.1[/TD]
    [TD]1.1[/TD]
    [TD]2.0[/TD]
    [TD]0.4[/TD]
    [TD]5.0[/TD]
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    Here are the up to date stats for your big men. Tough to work out your best lineup.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2015
  7. Mousey AJ Son

    Personally I'd probably stick with Tiger and Warrington, Tiger is still stretching the floor a bit, and he doesn't turn it over, and Warrington is just flat out your best overall big.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2015
  8. Teacups CJ Evans

    PG: Lewis 20 Martyn 16 Con 12
    SG: Ridd 24 Evans 16 Con 8
    SF: Goldenhaus 28 Dyer 16 Force 4
    PF: Tiger 24 Force 16 Warrington 8
    C: Warrington 24 Delonge 24

    Seems about fair on merit. Tempting to give Warrington 36 minutes but might be a big ask considering we are all kind of noobs in this basketball sim universe.

    Really need to work one of our weaker bigs into some form (weaker bigs = every big other than Warrington)

    *Assuming no injuries of course
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2015
  9. Rikkomas QG Goldenhaus

    Looking good Teacups/Mousey
    maybe we also should try to adapt our playing orders in the lineups post; for the moment they don't seems to impact much our end result
     
  10. Weeman27bob BE Force

    I'm happy to take suggestions
     
  11. Rikkomas QG Goldenhaus

    We normally have an even number of attempts (or more) than the opposition and we don't suffer much from TOs but our FG% is the lowest of the league

    2 options:
    Increase our passing game, lower the tempo and do proper shooting selection
    Increase the tempo, play transition fast/break offense to get to the basket quicker

    I would try option 2 with the risk of increasing our TOs but playing against defenses not fully in place should help our FG%
    Also we have a pretty big rooster so fatigue shouldn't be an issue
     
  12. Mariner CL Warrington

    Don't think we have the best ball handlers though, never seem to get very many assists either iirc.
     
  13. Teacups CJ Evans

    Just from memory, Lewis and Con are decent ball handlers. Martyn is probably the most turnover prone and I think has the lowest assist/TO so he's definitely the weak link. He's a poor shooter too.

    If Martyn doesn't pick up his performances, he might have to play pick up games unfortunately because it's becoming a burden to incorporate him into the lineup. That or he plays 8-12 mins. I'm not sure what the min playing time is.

    Delonge isn't flash either but we don't have an abundance of good bigs so he will always find a place in the first team. We have a lot of guards though.


    I'll try to do a comprehensive analysis when I'm on a computer and can have a look at the stats a bit more. The extra pass can work if we see improvements in the TO department. It will probably help get more out of Tiger in particular. It'll also help get more out of Riddy.
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2015
  14. Weeman27bob BE Force

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    [TD]FGM[/TD]
    [TD]FGA[/TD]
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    [TD]3PA[/TD]
    [TD]3P%[/TD]
    [TD]FTM[/TD]
    [TD]FTA[/TD]
    [TD]FT%[/TD]
    [TD]OREB[/TD]
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    [TD]Bruce Force[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]9.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]60.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]50.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.5[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]13.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]59.7%[/TD]
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    [TD]Clayton Evans[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]15.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]41.5%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]27.3%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]92.3%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]17.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]50.2%[/TD]
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    [TD]Jonny Ridd[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]15.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]45.5%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]46.2%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]78.6%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]20.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]59.7%[/TD]
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    [TD]Chris Lewis[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]15.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]45.9%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]41.7%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]83.3%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.3[/TD]
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    [TD="align: right"]2.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]23.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]60.1%[/TD]
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    [TD]Chris Warrington[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]13.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]42.6%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]77.3%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]11.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]15.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48.8%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Tom DeLonge[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]14.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]35.7%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]55.6%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]8.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]14.5[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]12.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]38.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Mike Martyn[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]13.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]34.8%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]16.7%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]75.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]12.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]41.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Teddy Tiger[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]13.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]39.6%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]42.9%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]100.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]9.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]13.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]46.4%[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD]Quentin Goldenhaus[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]16.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]46.2%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]28.6%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]100.0%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]19.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]55.0%[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD]Chad Dyer[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.5[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]17.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]36.5%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]27.8%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]57.1%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]16.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]42.7%[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD]BMT Con[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]15.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]41.5%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]6.6[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]47.1%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.5[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]57.1%[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]3.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]7.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1.9[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4.3[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]17.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]52.2%[/TD]
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  15. Weeman27bob BE Force

    It would be nice if I could rebound, because I shoot better than most of the other bigs, but apparently not.
     
  16. Rikkomas QG Goldenhaus

    I should stop chasing 3 pointers
     
  17. Teacups CJ Evans

    My take on how to possibly get out of this rut...

    Starting lineup:

    G BMT Con (24)
    G Johnny Ridd (28)
    F Quentin Goldenhaus (32)
    F Teddy Tiger (24)
    C Chris Warrington (36)

    Bench:
    6 Clayton Evans (20)
    7 Tom DeLonge (20)
    8 Chris Lewis (24)
    9 Chad Dyer (16)
    10 Bruce Force (16)

    Depth chart (players can be listed at multiple positions, except as a starter):
    PG: Con, Lewis
    SG: Ridd, Evans
    SF: Goldenhaus, Dyer
    PF: Tiger, Force, Warrington
    C: Warrington, Delonge

    Slow tempo when Con running the floor, look for the extra pass. Riddy, Tiger and Con outside scoring focus almost exclusively. Warrington post offense focus. Goldenhaus to drive more when Riddy and Con are on.

    Faster tempo when Lewis is running the floor. Evans, Lewis, Dyer to drive more. Delonge, Force post offensive focus. High defensive intensity from Force, Evans, Dyer and Lewis whenever they are on. Goldenhaus outside scoring focus when Evans and Lewis are on the floor.
     
  18. Rikkomas QG Goldenhaus

    Looks good Tkps
    I like the two styles

    let's see if we deliver in the next match
     
  19. Teacups CJ Evans

    Essentially both the styles you mentioned earlier but with situational lineups. I was trying to figure out how we can use the styles and match it with the players we have at our disposal.
     
  20. Rikkomas QG Goldenhaus

    no more excuses Wildcats!
     

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