WHAT THE FUCK!?

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Raide, Nov 20, 2012.

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  1. Frizzed WC Welker

    Do you know how to read ?
     
    Frizzed, Nov 21, 2012
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  2. Tartmaster AJ James

    Wait wait wait.

    0.05% of 142k tackles, is like 71 tackles.
    5% led to injures, that's like 3.5 injuries for the year.



    I mean I'm pretty sure those stats are wrong because i think there was more than 2-3 should've charges per round, but still.
    Going by those stats, they're banning a big draw card for the game to save 3.5 injuries a year?
    GMAFB.
     
    Tartmaster, Nov 21, 2012
    #42

  3. Magic AJ Parker

    lol @ all the players blowing up on twitter & all the fans on the internet.

    If the IC go through with this they've already made themselves pretty unpopular.
     
    Magic, Nov 21, 2012
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  4. Frizzed WC Welker

    The thing with head injuries is that they can happen years after the fact.
     
    Frizzed, Nov 21, 2012
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  5. Tartmaster AJ James

    This.

    Banning shoulder charges because a small portion of them (which are already illegal), are high and might cause damage is completely absurd.
     
    Tartmaster, Nov 21, 2012
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  6. Magic AJ Parker

    There's going to be some ridiculously stupid & mind boggling penalties this year. I can already see it happening..

    Can you image the first hit up in origin? Penalty!
     
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    Magic, Nov 21, 2012
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  7. Toolman TR Man

    I don't even know what constitutes a shoulder charge... if a player is running through a gap and the defender clips him with his shoulder, is that a penalty? If a forward is making a hitup and changes his course at the last second and the defender instinctively pushes his shoulder into the tackle first, is that a penalty?
     
    Toolman, Nov 21, 2012
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  8. Pretzel P Retzel

    If it is the same as Union rules the refs have to believe that you were making an effort to get your hand/arms there as well.
     
    Pretzel, Nov 21, 2012
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  9. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    In the NFL if you get a concussion injury more then a certain amount of times in your career you are no longer allowed to play, because they recognise the long term health risks that are associated with concussion injuries, which are definitely a higher risk factor with shoulder charge tackles then with wrapping tackles. Not all hits to the head are equal tbh.
     
    stupersteve03, Nov 21, 2012
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  10. Magic AJ Parker

    Because they're worried about head injuries or because they're worried about getting sued due to their weak legal system?

    Either way I agree with the sentiments, I think league has been left behind in this regard. This year club doctors agreed to withdraw players from the game if they suffered concussion but it barely even lasted a round after a few of them inevitably broke the agreement. In the NFL there's an independent doctor who asses players for concussion, these are the types of measures I think that need to be brought in, not the banning of a tackling technique when done correctly is perfectly fine.
     
    Magic, Nov 21, 2012
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  11. Bender BG Herd

    Are horse collar tackles still legal in League or rugby? That shit will end careers
     
    Bender, Nov 21, 2012
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  12. Frizzed WC Welker

    Still legal in league, no idea about union.
     
    Frizzed, Nov 21, 2012
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  13. morgieb MC Burridge

    afaic only two kinds of people support something like this:

    1. Wowsers who don't actually like footy and are only concerned about Little Johnny not getting hurt.
    2. Old bastards who grew up watching a less physical style of game.

    So yeah.
     
    morgieb, Nov 21, 2012
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  14. Alec AD Funkotron

    NFL is soft.
     
    Alec, Nov 21, 2012
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  15. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    Bull twat!

    People who recognise that despite what be most entertaining for them the welfare of other people should be utmost in our minds. I resent that idea that a genuine concern for the quality and longevity of life for people other then myself makes me a wowzer or diminishes my love of the sport.
     
    stupersteve03, Nov 21, 2012
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  16. Alec AD Funkotron

    The players know what the risks are. Other injuries are a lot more likely to happen. Maybe just ban tackling and running together.
     
    Alec, Nov 21, 2012
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  17. 99* JJ Ritchie

    People are acting far too precious over this.

    Dorn showed the stat, shoulder charges made up .05% of all tackles over the course of the season. It's hardly a big part of the game.

    All players need to do is make the effort to have their arm wrap around a bloke while launching themselves and you have the same effect.
     
    99*, Nov 21, 2012
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  18. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    Concussion injuries are far far more serious in terms of long term health effects and quality of life issues then muscle tearing, or even severe joint damage. The only other major injuries that have the same sort of long term quality of life effects are all neck or back related which we have already changed the nature of the game to avoid, see lifting tackles and contested scrums.
     
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    stupersteve03, Nov 21, 2012
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  19. Alec AD Funkotron

    Concussions happen in other ways too. Dallas Johnson knocked himself out by making a tackle in Origin one time. Some players were knocked out by the ball to the head. Everyone knows the risks, but like 99 said, the statistics show that it's very unlikely to happen.
     
    Alec, Nov 21, 2012
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  20. Magic AJ Parker

    Yeh tackling low is the most likely way you're going to get a concussion.. ban that too?

    Nate Myles knocks himself out at least once a match, luckily he's got the head for it
     
    Magic, Nov 21, 2012
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