Sydney Roosters

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Freddy, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    lol that's fucked.
     
  2. Toolman TR Man

    surely not
     
  3. Magic AJ Parker

    Lineup for Saturday morning will apparenlty be;

    1. Latrell Mitchell
    2. Joe Burgess
    3. Dale Copley
    4. Shaun Kenny-Dowall
    5. Daniel Tupou
    6. Jayden Nikorima
    7. Jackson Hastings
    8. Sam Moa
    9. Jake Friend
    10. Dylan Napa
    11. Mitchell Aubusson
    12. Aiden Guerra
    13. Sio Siua Taukeiaho

    14. Kane Evans
    15. Vincent Leuluai
    16. Issac Liu
    17. Ian Henderson

    Mitchell Frei & Blake Ferguson with a broken finger will miss out.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2016
  4. Julian BJ Taylor

    New 'worries' about Pearce bullshit?
     
  5. Alex AJ O'Driscoll

    Not surprised to see SKD get off. The chicks story was so dodgy and the fact she went to the Chooks before the cops was just fucking stupid.
     
  6. Toolman TR Man

    Still can't believe he sat so many games out especially when he was in such good form.
     
  7. Magic AJ Parker

    Gotta say Round 1 was extremely disappointing.

    The scoreline probably wasn't a fair indication of just how far off first-grade standard we were. You'd seriously find more cohesion in backline movements at Harrold Matts level. I get that you don't just go into a new season with a new fullback, 2 new centres, 2 new wingers, a new left edge 2nd rower & 2 new halves and just click straight away, they're literally all new combos but there wasn't even a sign of promise to cling hope to.

    I think individuals showed promise and I thought all the debutants held their own so it's hard to be critical of any individuals. I think the team is extremely talented & I actually wouldn't swap anyone bar Ferrguson who needs to be moved to centre but I reckon there's a couple yers of development and training to come before we compete seriously again. And that is concerning because hopefully the club don't panic and abandon some of these youngers or Robbo.
     
  8. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Aubusson needs to fuck off back to the bench. His jack-of-all-trades reputation hasn't been true for a while now. He's just not very good. At least on the bench it would mean Henderson isn't.
     
  9. Julian BJ Taylor

    Who plays second row?

    Tacky-Ah-Hoe?
     
  10. Mr Chook MR Chook

    Agreed. Fuck Henderson off and Aubs can be back up hooker if Friend needs a 15m breather. We do have Zane Tetevano playing NSW Cup for the Roos, the chick-basher from the Knights that was banned form NRL a year or so back. Not sure if he is still banned from NRL duties or not but he'd be ok off the bench to take Henderson's spot.
     
  11. Mr Chook MR Chook

    11. Guerra
    12. SST
    13. Liu

    14. Aubusson
    15. Moa
    16. Leuluai
    17. Tetevano
     
  12. Magic AJ Parker

    Aubusson is the least of our worries and Taukeiaho is way too important to our middle third atm without JWH he's our strongest yardage carrier.

    I saw enough from Hastings on Sunday to say he'll be excellent for us this year down the left-hand fringe when Pearce gets back and he's relieved of some organisational & game management duties. Having someone like Aubusson who's going to run honest overs and unders lines for you all day is one of the few strengths we have going for us at the moment in attack on the fringes. It gives Hastings some good structure to play off & a genuine attacking option runner in good ball zone every time.

    I actually think Guerra is the under-performer since switching back from lock to the 2nd row last year. He gives our right-hand fringe absolutely no structure, can't pass and often crowds his ball player and it's even more evident now with a rookie half in Nikorima on that side.
     
  13. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    This is what I chiefly disagree with. He isn't that. He's ineffectual. He's capable of drawing in defenders with his lines. That, however, is not really sufficient. Napa would do the same, not that I'm advocating it obviously. Guerra, despite all his faults many of which I've criticised myself, is at least a genuine threat when he gets it right.

    Frankly, they're both being played out of position. I'm assuming Robinson's hand is being forced though.
     
  14. Magic AJ Parker

    The only season Aubusson has played a full year in the second row (2010). He made 17 linebreaks.

    193 career games with 84 linebreaks @ 0.44 per game

    Compare that to other fringe runners with similar game tallies currently in the game like;

    Gavin Cooper - 211 career games with 55 linebreaks @ 0.26 per game
    Alex Glenn - 169 career games with 47 linebreaks @ 0.28 per game
    Luke Lewis - 259 career games with 121 linebreaks @ 0.47 per game
    Wade Graham - 164 career games with 43 linebreaks @ 0.26 per game

    He certainly isn't ineffectual as an attacking option runner on a fringe.

    I don't think Aubusson could be a second rower in a lot of other teams because he just flat out doesn't contribute enough to yardage sets but we're probably one of the few who are fortunate enough to be able to carry someone like that.
     
  15. Magic AJ Parker

    Just for interests sake and to back up my prior point below are a collection of stats for the games started in the second row by players currently playing in the NRL.

    Mitchell Aubusson is almost god-like in this category.

    [​IMG]

    Note: I haven't included players with less than 24 games (a full season) and I haven't included players who used to play 2nd row but are now playing other roles for their team.
     
  16. Julian BJ Taylor

    How many of those Gavin Cooper games are at NQ?

    I'd imagine his percentage outside Thurston alone would jump.
     
  17. Magic AJ Parker

    Jumps from 0.30 to 0.35 since he went back to the Cowboys in 2011.
     
  18. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Well I stand corrected. Of the games I've seen him play in the last 18 months he hasn't seemed like much chop but you can't argue with those numbers.
     
  19. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    Where do you get these stats?
     
  20. Magic AJ Parker

    Foxsports.

    I assembled them into a table myself though.
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2016

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