S6, R1: Typhoons vs. Trojans - COMPLETED

Discussion in 'Matches' started by HeathDavisSpeed, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Typhoons

    Jaspreet Singh
    Kim Glensor
    Mister Fourex
    Tool Man
    Security Nielson
    John Anraad
    Bosh Burger
    League Lover
    Brian Quilty
    Karwin Rogers
    Simon Nova
    Chris Ardley
    Anamul Haque
    Billy Kazim
    Daniel Veza

    Trojans

    Thad Bochat
    Joshua Ritchie
    Dave Eggman
    Nick Scott
    Teddy Tiger
    Callum Laing
    Keith Rask
    Dexter Astele
    Zorax Doom
    M Reddlapalli
    Al Farnsworth
    Paddy Orr
    Geoff Smith
    Ali Farhat
    Peter Jackson

    Odds
    Typhoons: $2.61
    Trojans: $1.40

    Players to Watch
    Callum Laing - he's too good for this level
    Billy Kazim - he's not too good for this level
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2020 at 9:14 AM
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  2. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    There are some big names in that Trojans side. Real stars I'd the past.
     
  3. MrPrez CM Dyer

    Surprised Canes don't have worse odds tbph.
     
  4. Howe JHF Howe

    Yus, match threads!

    C'mon Kazim!
     
  5. morgieb MC Burridge

    Yeah Spartans look a lot better to my eyes. IIRC though didn't Heef change the system so as to the Kazim types beig not quite as terrible?
     
  6. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Yep. I tried to even out the curve a little bit so the best players aren't far and away the best players and the worst players aren't absolute shithouse. Certainly there were fewer negative scores in the pre-season stuff, and the previously best players (myself, Cribb and a few others) weren't always right at the top.

    The other thing is the Trojans have pivots with basically zero post count. The odds also don't take into account uncontracted player nerfing, so Kazzaa playing out of position at first-five is rated considerably better than hunterbhai.

    It'll be an interesting test for the sim. The Typhoons should get annihilated, but they might have a chance of a win under the new sim. They'd have been losing by 40+ in the last season model.
     
  7. Number 11 CJ Downes

    Hype :toot:

    When did I overtake Callum in the pecking order?
     
  8. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Not sure, but that’s the way I’d written the teams when I really knew what I was doing, so I’m sticking with it for now. Must have had a reason for it. Not clear what it was though as Callum still has a superior raw post count. Maybe because his post count recency is weak.
     
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  9. Arheiner SIA Yates

    How does that work now, does everyone have awful recency or does it scale?
     
  10. Number 11 CJ Downes

    Interesting. Is there still a way to view post count ranks for this?
     
  11. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Yes, yes there is. It was one of the things that hadn't worked on moving to this new site for a long time, until Cribb fixed the post count page just before Christmas. Couldn't really sim without it.

    Anyway, this will be tonight at 8pm NZT.
     
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  12. Bender BG Herd

  13. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    Least compelling game of the round, 2 one sided
     
  14. Number 11 CJ Downes

    Comfortable win in the end
     
  15. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Typhoons (5)
    Tries: League Lover x 1
    Penalties: Karwin Rogers x (0/2)
    Conversions: Karwin Rogers x (0/1)

    Trojans (27)
    Tries: Ali Farhat x 1, Al Farnsworth x 1, Geoff Smith x 2
    Penalties: M Reddlapalli x (1/1)
    Conversions: M Reddlapalli x (2/4)
     
  16. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Code:
    Typhoons                  	TOTAL
    SCRUMS WON               	12
    SCRUMS LOST             	12
    SCRUMS WON AGAINST FEED   	1
    SCRUM PENALTIES CONCEDED	9
    LINE OUTS WON            	16
    LINE OUTS WON AGAINST THROW	1
    LINE OUTS NOT STRAIGHT   	4
    LINE OUT INFRINGEMENTS  	0
    RUCK INFRINGEMENTS      	2
    MAULS WON               	2
    MAUL INFRINGEMENTS      	0
    METRES GAINED FROM OPEN PLAY	220
    POSSESSION              	44%
    TIME IN OPPOSITION 22 (seconds)	1485
    TERRITORY (seconds)      	61%
    SCRUM METRES            	16
    BREAKDOWN TURNOVERS WON  	9
    BREAKDOWN TURNOVERS LOST  	8
    TACKLES MADE             	64
    TACKLES MISSED           	4
    HANDLING ERRORS          	23
    Code:
    Trojans                  	TOTAL
    SCRUMS WON               	12
    SCRUMS LOST             	12
    SCRUMS WON AGAINST FEED   	2
    SCRUM PENALTIES CONCEDED	10
    LINE OUTS WON            	8
    LINE OUTS WON AGAINST THROW	3
    LINE OUTS NOT STRAIGHT   	1
    LINE OUT INFRINGEMENTS  	1
    RUCK INFRINGEMENTS      	12
    MAULS WON               	2
    MAUL INFRINGEMENTS      	1
    METRES GAINED FROM OPEN PLAY	399
    POSSESSION              	56%
    TIME IN OPPOSITION 22 (seconds)	585
    TERRITORY (seconds)      	39%
    SCRUM METRES            	15
    BREAKDOWN TURNOVERS WON  	8
    BREAKDOWN TURNOVERS LOST  	9
    TACKLES MADE             	54
    TACKLES MISSED           	5
    HANDLING ERRORS          	21
     
  17. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Code:
    		Team		Position	Time	SCP	Rating	POTS/COTS
    Geoff Smith	Trojans		Outside Centre	80	108.5	10	3
    League Lover	Typhoons	Number 8	80	65	9	2
    Al Farnsworth	Trojans		Wing - 1	80	62	9	1
    Kim Glensor	Typhoons	Hooker/Rake	80	63	8	
    Tool Man	Typhoons	Second Row - 1	80	56.6	8	
    Callum Laing	Trojans		B'side Flanker	80	52.8	8	
    Joshua Ritchie	Trojans		Hooker/Rake	80	45.5	7	
    Keith Rask	Trojans		O'side Flanker	80	45.3	7	
    Mister Fourex	Typhoons	Tighthead Prop	80	40.25	7	
    Ali Farhat	Trojans		Wing - 2	80	36	7	
    Dexter Astele	Trojans		Number 8	80	33.8	7	
    Sec'y Nielson	Typhoons	Second Row - 2	80	34.1	6	
    Simon Nova	Typhoons	Wing - 1	80	22	6	
    Brian Quilty	Typhoons	Scrum Half	80	21.25	5	
    Bosh Burger	Typhoons	O'side Flanker	80	18.5	5	
    John Anraad	Typhoons	B'side Flanker	80	18.25	5	
    Paddy Orr	Trojans		Inside Centre	80	17.25	5	
    Dave Eggman	Trojans		Tighthead Prop	80	16.5	5	
    Thad Bochat	Trojans		Loosehead Prop	80	16.5	4	
    Nick Scott	Trojans		Second Row - 1	80	15	4	
    Teddy Tiger	Trojans		Second Row - 2	80	14	4	
    Karwin Rogers	Typhoons	Fly Half	80	13.85	4	
    Zorax Doom	Trojans		Scrum Half	80	11.25	2	
    M Reddlapalli	Trojans		Fly Half	80	6.25	1	
    Anamul Haque	Typhoons	Outside Centre	80	4	1	
    Jaspreet Singh	Typhoons	Loosehead Prop	80	4	1	
    Chris Ardley	Typhoons	Inside Centre	80	0.25	0	
    Billy Kazim	Typhoons	Wing - 2	80	-2.75	0	-1
    Peter Jackson	Trojans		Full Back	80	-3.6	0	-2
    Daniel Veza	Typhoons	Full Back	80	-7	-1	-3
    Code:
    Contact		Team		Position	MTkO	MTk	TkM	BTk	LOI	BT	TC	RC
    Anamul Haque	Typhoons	Outside Centre	2	0	2	0	0	0	0	7
    Jaspreet Singh	Typhoons	Loosehead Prop	4	0	5	0	0	0	2	20
    Billy Kazim	Typhoons	Wing - 2	0	0	1	1	0	0	1	6
    Brian Quilty	Typhoons	Scrum Half	4	0	5	1	0	0	1	1
    Bosh Burger	Typhoons	O'side Flanker	3	1	3	0	0	1	1	14
    Sec'y Nielson	Typhoons	Second Row - 2	5	0	6	0	0	1	1	20
    John Anraad	Typhoons	B'side Flanker	3	0	6	0	0	0	1	13
    Karwin Rogers	Typhoons	Fly Half	3	0	2	2	0	0	0	6
    League Lover	Typhoons	Number 8	5	0	4	3	0	0	0	25
    Chris Ardley	Typhoons	Inside Centre	7	2	3	0	0	0	0	6
    Mister Fourex	Typhoons	Tighthead Prop	3	0	9	1	0	0	0	19
    Kim Glensor	Typhoons	Hooker/Rake	1	0	6	1	0	5	0	25
    Simon Nova	Typhoons	Wing - 1	6	0	1	4	0	0	1	9
    Tool Man	Typhoons	Second Row - 1	1	0	9	1	0	2	0	19
    Daniel Veza	Typhoons	Full Back	4	1	2	0	0	0	0	4
    Joshua Ritchie	Trojans		Hooker/Rake	1	0	7	2	0	2	0	26
    Peter Jackson	Trojans		Full Back	1	0	2	0	0	0	1	7
    Dexter Astele	Trojans		Number 8	0	0	7	3	0	0	0	15
    Callum Laing	Trojans		B'side Flanker	1	0	5	6	0	0	0	24
    Dave Eggman	Trojans		Tighthead Prop	1	1	3	0	0	3	0	22
    Ali Farhat	Trojans		Wing - 2	2	0	0	7	0	0	1	9
    Al Farnsworth	Trojans		Wing - 1	1	1	3	10	0	0	1	8
    Geoff Smith	Trojans		Outside Centre	2	0	3	15	0	0	1	6
    M Reddlapalli	Trojans		Fly Half	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	3
    Paddy Orr	Trojans		Inside Centre	0	0	5	2	0	0	1	6
    Keith Rask	Trojans		O'side Flanker	1	1	1	2	0	2	1	15
    Nick Scott	Trojans		Second Row - 1	1	0	3	0	2	0	0	18
    Thad Bochat	Trojans		Loosehead Prop	0	0	7	1	0	1	1	19
    Teddy Tiger	Trojans		Second Row - 2	0	0	4	0	0	0	2	12
    Zorax Doom	Trojans		Scrum Half	2	1	3	3	0	0	0	1
    Code:
    Movement	Team		Position	HE	RM	R	PnG	MM	TA	T	LBA
    Anamul Haque	Typhoons	Outside Centre	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Jaspreet Singh	Typhoons	Loosehead Prop	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Billy Kazim	Typhoons	Wing - 2	3	5	1	0	0	0	0	0
    Brian Quilty	Typhoons	Scrum Half	1	7	1	0	0	1	0	5
    Bosh Burger	Typhoons	O'side Flanker	0	5	0	1	4	0	0	0
    Sec'y Nielson	Typhoons	Second Row - 2	2	27	1	0	0	0	0	0
    John Anraad	Typhoons	B'side Flanker	2	14	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Karwin Rogers	Typhoons	Fly Half	0	11	2	0	0	0	0	0
    League Lover	Typhoons	Number 8	1	59	3	1	0	0	1	0
    Chris Ardley	Typhoons	Inside Centre	2	8	1	0	0	0	0	0
    Mister Fourex	Typhoons	Tighthead Prop	4	18	2	0	0	0	0	0
    Kim Glensor	Typhoons	Hooker/Rake	1	3	1	0	0	0	0	0
    Simon Nova	Typhoons	Wing - 1	1	28	4	0	0	0	0	0
    Tool Man	Typhoons	Second Row - 1	1	35	2	0	0	0	0	0
    Daniel Veza	Typhoons	Full Back	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Joshua Ritchie	Trojans		Hooker/Rake	2	15	2	0	0	1	0	0
    Peter Jackson	Trojans		Full Back	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Dexter Astele	Trojans		Number 8	1	34	3	0	0	0	0	0
    Callum Laing	Trojans		B'side Flanker	0	33	5	1	6	0	0	1
    Dave Eggman	Trojans		Tighthead Prop	5	3	1	0	0	0	0	0
    Ali Farhat	Trojans		Wing - 2	1	40	7	0	0	0	1	0
    Al Farnsworth	Trojans		Wing - 1	0	65	10	0	0	0	1	0
    Geoff Smith	Trojans		Outside Centre	0	125	15	0	0	0	2	0
    M Reddlapalli	Trojans		Fly Half	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Paddy Orr	Trojans		Inside Centre	1	13	2	0	0	0	0	0
    Keith Rask	Trojans		O'side Flanker	1	49	2	0	0	0	0	1
    Nick Scott	Trojans		Second Row - 1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Thad Bochat	Trojans		Loosehead Prop	3	16	3	0	0	0	0	0
    Teddy Tiger	Trojans		Second Row - 2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1
    Zorax Doom	Trojans		Scrum Half	3	5	3	0	0	3	0	1
    Code:
    Kicking		Team		Position	KMiP	KMPen	KiP	KE	PenIP	GA	GS	CA	CS
    Billy Kazim	Typhoons	Wing - 2	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
    Karwin Rogers	Typhoons	Fly Half	111	166	9	6	20	2	0	1	0
    Simon Nova	Typhoons	Wing - 1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
    Daniel Veza	Typhoons	Full Back	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0
    Peter Jackson	Trojans		Full Back	23	0	6	2	0	0	0	0	0
    Geoff Smith	Trojans		Outside Centre	135	0	12	3	0	0	0	0	0
    M Reddlapalli	Trojans		Fly Half	12	88	3	2	6	1	1	4	2
    Zorax Doom	Trojans		Scrum Half	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
    Code:
    Set Piece	Team		Position	NR	IEAG	OS	HITR	SI	LFG	LFE	LOOB	LOS	LOI	SIF	SWF	SWAF
    Anamul Haque	Typhoons	Outside Centre	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Jaspreet Singh	Typhoons	Loosehead Prop	0	0	0	1	5	0	0	0	0	0	1	12	2
    Billy Kazim	Typhoons	Wing - 2	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Brian Quilty	Typhoons	Scrum Half	0	0	0	0	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Bosh Burger	Typhoons	O'side Flanker	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	12	2
    Sec'y Nielson	Typhoons	Second Row - 2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	1	0	0	12	2
    John Anraad	Typhoons	B'side Flanker	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3	0	0	0	12	2
    Karwin Rogers	Typhoons	Fly Half	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    League Lover	Typhoons	Number 8	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	5	0	0	0	12	2
    Chris Ardley	Typhoons	Inside Centre	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Mister Fourex	Typhoons	Tighthead Prop	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	12	2
    Kim Glensor	Typhoons	Hooker/Rake	0	0	0	0	0	20	4	0	0	0	0	12	2
    Simon Nova	Typhoons	Wing - 1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Tool Man	Typhoons	Second Row - 1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	0	0	0	12	2
    Daniel Veza	Typhoons	Full Back	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Joshua Ritchie	Trojans		Hooker/Rake	0	0	2	0	0	6	1	0	0	0	0	10	2
    Peter Jackson	Trojans		Full Back	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Dexter Astele	Trojans		Number 8	0	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	10	2
    Callum Laing	Trojans		B'side Flanker	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	10	2
    Dave Eggman	Trojans		Tighthead Prop	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	5	10	2
    Ali Farhat	Trojans		Wing - 2	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Al Farnsworth	Trojans		Wing - 1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Geoff Smith	Trojans		Outside Centre	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    M Reddlapalli	Trojans		Fly Half	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Paddy Orr	Trojans		Inside Centre	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    Keith Rask	Trojans		O'side Flanker	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	0	0	0	10	2
    Nick Scott	Trojans		Second Row - 1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	2	0	10	2
    Thad Bochat	Trojans		Loosehead Prop	0	0	1	2	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	10	2
    Teddy Tiger	Trojans		Second Row - 2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	10	2
    Zorax Doom	Trojans		Scrum Half	0	0	0	0	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
     
  18. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Fiery just too good. League Lover had a stellar game for a filler of weak post rank. ITSTL. Trojans definitely let down by the pivot pairing. Would have been carnage otherwise, I think. Dangerous signs for the Immortals in that, I think.
     
  19. Baxter MJ Deane

    If Bergamasco can play 9 then Fiery can play 10
     
  20. morgieb MC Burridge

    I'm surprised Jabba is seen as better than Fiery, given Jabba's been mostly a flop so far in his SR career.
     

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