History Mafia Game Thread

Athlai · Nov 15, 2013

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Assumptions are pretty imbalanced.
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Na it was imba.

These are themed games, and when the theme is to be obscure, having unusual roles means we have to rely on our abilities in a conventional manner. If those abilities are going to be hokum and there is no reasonable in game explanation for that you will see errors like mine. I don't think anyone else would not have tried to lynch Howe after getting a one use detective ability that says he is a specific character and a conqueror nonetheless.

Himannv · Nov 15, 2013

Dat Cleo Antony QT.

Escath · Nov 15, 2013

Conquerors

You are Alexander III of Macedon.

Succeeding your father as King of Macedon at the age of 20, within ten years you created an empire that spanned from Greece to as far east as India.

You have the following powers:
Legacy: Each night you may target one person. Until the end of the game, or until you die, any investigative powers aimed at that person will return information as if they had your identity.
Command: If you are chosen to kill for the Conquerors, you cannot fail.
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You are Batu Khan of Mongolia.

While thinking of the Mongolian Empire, most would immediately think about Genghis Khan, your grandfather. However, Genghis Khan only began the expansion of the empire and it was his sons and grandsons, including yourself, who furthered his conquests.

You have the following powers:
Terror: Each night you can induce so much fear into a target that they will not be able to act that night.
Plunder: If you are chosen to kill for the Conquerors, successful kills will leave no remains.
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You are Hannibal of Carthage.

Son of Hamilcar Barca, the general who successfully held Sicily against the Romans during the First Punic War. Along with your father, a hatred for the Romans was fuelled by the severe reparations they imposed on your people. You swore revenge on Rome and came closer than any other in conquering Ancient Rome.

You have the following powers:
Vengeance: Each night, you can choose to activate this power. If anyone targets you during the night activated, they will be killed at the end of the following night, provided you are still alive. This power will lose all effects once at least one person has been killed by this power.
Mercenaries: If you are chosen to kill for the Conquerors, investigative powers will not work on you.
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You are Napoleon Bonaparte of France.

Following the French Revolution, you became the first Emperor of France since the 9th century. Europe saw the threat you posed and formed multiple coalitions to oppose you and your Empire.

You have the following powers:
Revolution: The first time you would be lynched, one random voter will be lynched instead.
Exile: If you are chosen to kill for the Conquerors, should another Conqueror be lynched in the next day phase, you will be lynched instead.
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Escath · Nov 15, 2013

Town

You are Sun Tzu of China.

You are attributed for the Art of War, a treatise on military strategies. Despite being written over two thousand years ago, the ideas within this famous text are still considered relevant in the modern day, in domains even beyond warfare.

You have the following powers:
The Art of War: The first time you would be killed or lynched, the person using the kill or casting the last lynch vote will be roleblocked until the next dawn and you will survive the attack.
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You are Plutarch of Greece.

You lived in a time when the Roman Empire was at its greatest and to many the accomplishments of the Greeks seemed small compared to those of the more recent Romans. You wrote Parallel Lives, a collection of autobiographies that looks into the lives of famous Greeks and Romans, highlighting their similarities.

You have the following powers:
Parallel Lives: Each night you may target one person to obtain the name of a person (not in the game) that can be considered to having a "parallel life" to the person you are targeting.
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You are Tutankhamun of Egypt.

Some Pharaohs, such as Ramesses II, are known for their great rule. Others, such as Cleopatra, are known for causing rifts amongst great men. You, however, were largely forgotten until the rediscovery of your tomb in 1922.

You have the following powers:
Curse of the Pharaohs: During any day phase, you may instantly kill someone who has their vote on you. This power may be used twice, but not more than once per day.
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You are Stanley Milgram of the USA.

A social psychologist, you are perhaps most well known for your study on obedience to authority, the Milgram Experiment. However, your contribution to social psychology extends much beyond that.

You have the following powers:
Milgram Experiment: You may target someone to redirect any actions they would have taken to another target. Note that this will not work on those who have absolutely authority in their respective realm.
Small-world experiment: At dawn, you will find out about a random targeted power used at night. You will know the person using the power and their target, but not what the power was.
Lost letter experiment: You may target one person. Any actions made by the target that are not protective or investigative in nature will be negated.

Note: You may only use one of these powers each night. The same power cannot be used on two consecutive nights.
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You are Mahatma Gandhi of India.

While many would choose to resist oppression with violence, you proved to the world that non-violence is just as effective in inspiring change and independence.

You have the following powers:
Pacifism: Each night, you can target someone to prevent them from taking any actions that night.
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You are Francis Bacon of England.

Some know you as a philosopher, others as a scientist. You were influential both throughout your life, serving as Attorney General and Lord of Chancellor of England, and after your life, being a key figure in the practice and promotion of the scientific method.

You have the following powers:
Scientific method: Each day, you may choose one person whose death was revealed at the preceding dawn to find out what powers they had.
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You are Marco Polo of Venice.

An inspiration for many great explorers who came later, you are famous for your travels to throughout Asia. While you were not the first European to travel to China, your book, commonly known as The Travels of Marco Polo, ensured you were and continue to be the most well known.

You have the following powers:
Il Milione: Each night you may target a person to find out their nationality.
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You are Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz of Germany.

Calculus has become a foundation of modern science and engineering, but no one can be sure who actually invented it. You spent the last years of your life in a continuous debate against Isaac Newton and his supporters, with both of you claiming to have first invented calculus, a debate that continues to this day.

You have the following powers:
Differentiation: You may target someone to make the target of their power in the following night the same as their target this night.
Integration: You may target someone to make them use their power on the same person they used it on the previous night.

Note: You may only use of these powers each night.
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You are Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar of Spain.

Better known as El Cid, you are the national hero of Spain. You fought for Sancho II of Castille, but was later exiled by his brother and successor Alfonso. You then served the Muslims of Zaragova against Barcelona, before being invited back into the service of Alfonso. Later in your life, you became the lord of Valencia and spent your remaining years fighting against the Almoravids of North Africa.

You have the following powers:
El Campeador: Each night you may target a person to kill them.
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You are Anne Frank of Germany.

A young Jew whose family fled to the Netherlands as the Nazis gained power in Germany, you and your family were eventually captured and put in a concentration camp where you died, aged 15. The publication of your diary, The Diary of a Young Girl, two years after your death, gave widespread attention to the atrocities of the Holocaust.

You have the following powers:
The Diary of a Young Girl: If you are killed or lynched, the name of your killer or a random person who cast a vote for you will be revealed.
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You are Arthur Conan Doyle of England.

You created Sherlock Holmes, one of the most well known characters in literature. While Sherlock Holmes himself is interesting, what makes your stories about him even more fascinating is your insight on the England of the Victorian Era that has stood the test of time.

You have the following powers:
Sherlock Holmes: You may target a person to find their identity.
John Watson: You may target a person to protect them from any other powers for the night.
James Moriarty: You may target a person to find whether they are a Conqueror or not.

NOTE: You may only use one of these powers each night. Each power may only be used once.
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You are Zhuge Liang of China.

One of the most prominent figure in the Three Kingdoms period of Chinese history, you were the chancellor of Shu Han. Beyond being an accomplished statesman, you are also known as being a brilliant strategist.

You have the following powers:
Chu-ko-nu: Each of your votes count as two votes. Your second vote will not appear in vote counts.
Wooden statue: When you die, it will appear as if you are still alive until the end of the following day phase. You may still post and vote.
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You are Cleopatra VII of Egypt.

The last pharaoh of Egypt, you were one of the few Ptolemaic pharaohs to learn to speak Egyptian. Originally married to your own brother, you later gave birth the son of Julius Caesar. Following his assassination, you fell in love with Mark Antony and together opposed Caesar's nephew, later known as Augustus Caesar.

You have the following powers:
Lover: You may communicate with Mark Antony. Should either of you die, the other will take their own life as well.
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You are Mark Antony of Rome.

A loyal friend of Julius Caesar, you formed an alliance with his nephew Octavian to combat Caesar's assassins. However, by declaring the child of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra, who you later fell in love with, the rightful heir of Caesar, your relations with Octavian took a turn for the worse, leading to the last Roman civil war and ultimately your death.

You have the following powers:
Lover: You may communicate with Cleopatra. Should either of you die, the other will take their own life as well.
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Escath · Nov 15, 2013

Scientologist

You are L. Ron Hubbard of the USA.

You founded the "religion" of Scientology.

You have the following powers:
Scientology: Each night, you can choose a target. If you correctly name their identity, you will convert them to Scientology. Converts will be told they have been converted, but they will not be told who converted them nor will you be able to communicate with them privately.
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Escath · Nov 15, 2013

Athlai said: ↑

Na it was imba.

These are themed games, and when the theme is to be obscure, having unusual roles means we have to rely on our abilities in a conventional manner. If those abilities are going to be hokum and there is no reasonable in game explanation for that you will see errors like mine. I don't think anyone else would not have tried to lynch Howe after getting a one use detective ability that says he is a specific character and a conqueror nonetheless.
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Well according to your definition of a theme, your character should have had none of the powers you had, therefore you would have been able to work out that things aren't taken as literally as you thought.

Imo, Alexander's abilities were actually much more thematic than Arthur Conan Doyle's.

Athlai · Nov 15, 2013

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Well according to your definition of a theme, your character should have had none of the powers you had, therefore you would have been able to work out that things aren't taken as literally as you thought.

Imo, Alexander's abilities were actually much more thematic than Arthur Conan Doyle's.
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Agreed, for a theme my role was fairly nonsense, it was the ability to utilise a conventional detective/cop ability that allowed my role to make some sense.

Mafia isn't a game where you are supposed to know absolutely nothing. Rules/themes and roles are almost always universally known. In this game it wasn't the case and it made it fairly imba. I'm a proponent of themes that can span timelines and bend characters to be a little obscure, however introducing powerful roles affecting abilities that don't seemingly have a basis in a "theme logic" just gives us no hope of guessing it.

There is no question in my mind that Alexander the Great having an ability to make people look identical to him without their knowledge is an imbalanced role in a historical game. There is no way any player can predict that he would have such an ability.

Escath · Nov 15, 2013

You're being so salty about something in a game of mafia not being "conventional", which makes no sense to me because the most praised games here are the ones that are unconventional. Just admit that you made some assumptions that turned out to be incorrect and due to the way you, town and mafia played it out it ended up working out badly.

Athlai · Nov 15, 2013

I certainly did make assumptions but I don't think I could have played it any differently in retrospect.

BoyBlunder · Nov 15, 2013

Escath said: ↑

Scientologist
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Missed off the bit where I died if anyone mentioned scientology or any variant in the thread.

Never thought I'd win that at the start but got pretty lucky in the middle with the whole Arheiner/GF thing

Mousey · Nov 15, 2013

Well played Blunder. Had everyone totally fooled. Convincing win.

BoyBlunder · Nov 15, 2013

Was their no dead chat?

Mousey · Nov 15, 2013

BoyBlunder said: ↑

Was their no dead chat?
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lol.

BoyBlunder · Nov 15, 2013

Lame

Mousey · Nov 15, 2013

But nah, not that I'm aware of.

Arheiner · Nov 16, 2013

So did I get converted to Scientology, or was Blunder just BS guessing I was Alexander? Assume it had to be the later

Also, at that QT.

BoyBlunder · Nov 16, 2013

Arheiner said: ↑

So did I get converted to Scientology, or was Blunder just BS guessing I was Alexander? Assume it had to be the later

Also, at that QT.
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I guessed that you were ATG as my night action but then failed to convert you for some reason. Still was told my guess was right

Escath · Nov 16, 2013

Mafia were unconvertable.

In standard play cultists often die if they try to convert a mafia, but I thought I had placed a significant enough restriction on conversion and communication for that to be required.

Of course, it didn't matter because everyone decided to just give him their identities for free.

Starris · Nov 17, 2013

and it's not like you didn't warn us!

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