AFL Supercoach Draft 2013

I was hesitant?

Douglas averages 105 or something and Redden 97
Dempsey averages 82 and Stanley 77 or something and averaged 90 last year so he's got potential to improve that.

certainly on points it's bang on even if not in masters favour. It's not like age matters in this. Plus Masters gains the best player in the deal. I certainly never would want to lose the best player in the deal; only reason I even considered it was that I had Tom Mitchell on the pine who's just below Douglas whereas Dempsey is a bit of an upgrade on Stanley.

I certainly think the only thing one could say that makes it unbalanced is Douglas's unproven record; but he's maintained the average for 16 rounds or w/e and he plays a SC friendly game so he'll maintain it. It's literally bang even on average. Even on last years averages if you want to go on about how this year isn't a big enough sample it's a 2-3 pt differential.

Hardly a terrible deal at all, the average gap is smaller in this than in the tippett deal lol. Everyone trade obviously will have a winner, no such thing as real 50/50 imo but I certainly don't think if I am the winner (and I've done it for a reason, it's nothing dog or anything but I specifically targetted Redden... I wouldn't have done this trade 8 weeks ago, it's only the timing that suits me. I'll explain after it's all finished) it's by much if anything.

That said, it'd be fucking bullshit if people thought it was reversible but if the crowd do, they do. I'd just like to hear an argument as to why it is, as on averages over the last 2 years it certainly isn't. Nor is it positionally advantageous.

 

Yes but that's not relevant. The fact that I've built a good midfielder shouldn't count against me.

Had I traded Douglas for someone like Matt Shaw I'd still be 'trading one of my many mids for a defensive upgrade' - doesn't mean it's a good deal.

It's a 5 point upgrade in defence and a 3 point (104-101) downgrade to Mitchell in the midfield. Just because it serves my needs well, doesn't mean it's an unfair trade. Trades can be mutually beneficial. The trade between you and Theo gave both of you an upgrade in points from your 18 and traded a player in a position you were comfortable in for a need. You both won out of that, and you both benefited - hence why you did the trade. I benefit here too, it doesn't mean it's a wonky trade, it's that I traded out assets with value that I needed less for similarly valued assets that I needed more.

It's not like there's a rule which says 'everyone must only trade if it does not advantage them in any way' Of course the only reason people trade is it helps out their team. I'm trading out a midfielder, as you say, for another one who averages only 5 pts less. And I'm upgrading my defender by.... omg.... 5 pts. It's almost like... it's even?

 

104+77 -> masters
97+82 -> me

 

Exactly. NFI what diggler is talking about.

 

Haha shit I am certainly not that much of a dog nor do I need the cash anyway.

Do you really think if I wanted to make a deal for cash I'd go to masters anyway? It'd be the most strange conversation. It's not like it was a biased enough deal to require cash to get it over the line anyway. Why would I do that, I'm not a fucking dog.

 

You're sounding like a troll right now. Ad lapidem, really. You've just made comments without even giving anything as to why that's the case

 

What the fuck cunts

Seriously, what the fuck.

1) - how the fuck is that a reversible trade
2) - who the fuck would, knowing it's a 2 part trade, only vote to veto half the trade.

Now I'm stuck with Redden for Douglas which I can't reverse and I lose the weaker player.

You've actually tactically vetoed one part of the trade JUST so I lose out for finals.

I don't know which 2 of you (at least you were honest and did both) thought the trade was reversible as nobody's got the balls to admit it, but the two cunts who vetoed just one part of the trade are dead to me. That's such poor form.

There are 10 of us, masters & i can't vote, Jager doesn't log on, so that's 7 of you.

Theo and Morgie expressed their support for the trade, so there's 5 left. 4 of you vetoed the Dempsey trade and 2 of you the Redden trade. So, Diggler/Mousey/Harps/Brett/Paul, (and this isn't meant to be a threat - more that it's just destroyed my motivation) all of you are delaying CPL and AFLsim right now. I'm certainly not going to be fucked or motivated to sim any of that shit (that I spent fucking 250 hours on preparing, yeah, it took that long) for blokes like you when all I asked was that if people vote, they at least give a reason for it. So far nobody has admitted to voting despite that and 4/5 have.

Fucking ridiculous. It's not the veto that frustrates me as such, although it does as it's so blatantly not a veto-able trade, but the 2 cunts who thought they'd tactically down vote one half of the trade just so I lose out. Yeah, certainly makes fucking sense for me to downgrade my starting midfielder into a bench midfielder. It's the fucking tactical will to win at all costs. If we do this next season it's certainly going to be commisioner approved trades and then everyone publicly votes. Means for one that a 2/2 trade if vetoed would be reversed both parts not just one.

cunts.

still don't even see how it was a bad trade to begin with.

 

lolololololol. so mad