Gold Coast Titans

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Rusty, Apr 30, 2011.

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  1. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    So what you're saying is, the Broncos didn't do anything wrong. Not our fault that Gee quit and now won't cooperate.
     
    Boobidy, Oct 19, 2014
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  2. Magic AJ Parker

    Only if you believe organisations don't & shouldn't have responsibility over the people they hire & their actions whilst employed.

    Under which logic Melbourne did nothing wrong either. Not their fault Waldron was a salary cap cheating cunt.
     
    Magic, Oct 19, 2014
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  3. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    They can't make him do anything if he no longer works for them.
     
    Boobidy, Oct 19, 2014
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  4. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Ugh please. Wake up, cunt.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Oct 19, 2014
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  5. Lukic L Popovic

    Definitely with boob here. Brongos done absolutely nothin wrong.
     
    Lukic, Oct 19, 2014
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  6. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    lol, Gemmell says he has no doubt they cheat the cap, whilst simultaneously saying if they did cheat the cap there'd be evidence, and that they've done nothing wrong.

    Pick a position and stick with it, you goose.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Oct 19, 2014
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  7. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    and the only reason the NRL were investigating in the first place was because the Broncos asked them to. They'd realised Gee had gone rogue....so they cut him loose, and then wanted to clear up IF there was any mess that he'd possibly left behind.

    Responsible actions from any professional business.
     
    Mr Fourex, Oct 19, 2014
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  8. Magic AJ Parker

    None of which means they didn't cheat the salary cap or absolves them of responsibility for an employees actions.
     
    Magic, Oct 19, 2014
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  9. Pretzel P Retzel

    Gemmell is def trolling lol
     
    Pretzel, Oct 19, 2014
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  10. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    If Andrew Gee failed to co-operate with the investigations, that also doesn't automatically imply that he was covering up for the Broncos and any salary cap breaches. As I said earlier....he had gone rogue and could have been hiding improprieties that were more to do with a personal nature.

    Also most football clubs and their respective leagues clubs are run as separate identities, so for the leagues club to refuse requests to be interviewed, again doesn't point directly to any cover-up for salary cap breaches by the football club. I'm quite sure the majority of any business's wouldn't be exactly enthused to opening up their books unnecessarily for financial review. I know I wouldn't.

    This presumption of Brisbane's guilt is the more sensationalistic approach and I'm sure that sits quite well with some. Personally, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty is a far more reassuring avenue of investigation and is more in keeping with 21st century values.

    In the end, this costly and time consuming investigation by the NRL proved that Brisbane had no case to answer.
     
    Mr Fourex, Oct 19, 2014
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  11. Cribbage RG Cribb

    'Innocent until proven guilty' is definitely a fundamentally good idea (and sadly a concept increasingly ignored by the state these days) but the standard of proof should definitely be different from an official proceedings to your personal beliefs.

    There was only circumstantial evidence against Brisbane so it's quite right they weren't punished by the NRL as it didn't meet the standard of proof required for official action, but I certainly think it's more likely they were guilty than not. It's my personal belief that they cheated the cap.
     
    Cribbage, Oct 19, 2014
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  12. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Show some evidence, or it never happened.
     
    Boobidy, Oct 19, 2014
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  13. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Innocent until proven guilty is definitely the correct principle and I agree with EWS that it's distinct from your personal view. That's why I said I operate on the presumption of guilt. To presume they're innocent because the NRL cannot prove otherwise, is ridiculous. That's all I was driving at.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Oct 19, 2014
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  14. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    Based on what...there's more evidence to suggest the contrary.
     
    Mr Fourex, Oct 19, 2014
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  15. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Such as?
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Oct 19, 2014
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  16. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    To presume guilt is as equally preposterous.
     
    Mr Fourex, Oct 19, 2014
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  17. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    LOL....the no conviction for starters.
     
    Mr Fourex, Oct 19, 2014
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  18. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Oh well, OJ was probs innocent too.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Oct 19, 2014
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  19. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    The same OJ currently serving a 33 yr jail sentence in Nevada?

    probs not ....
     
    Mr Fourex, Oct 19, 2014
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  20. Andato BJT Manera

    Haha presumption of guilt.
     
    Andato, Oct 19, 2014
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