"This is what I thought of the TV show I just watched" thread

Yeah but Charlie was a much more interesting character in that he was such a turd. They had to make Waldon a really nice guy for the whole "Allan still lives with him" thing to be at all believable (and honestly it still isn't) which takes a lot away from what they can do with his character. They've had to change the Allan character as a result to make him the arsehole of the show which hasn't really worked - it worked better when he was the nice guy with a pathetic streak; now he's just an absolute parasite of a man who lives with a manchild.

They've tried to do what you said but they were hamstrung too much by trying to get Allan's residency situation to 'fit' and it hasn't worked.

 

I assume this is about the Two and a Half Men posts?

 

I think Allan has changed, quite suddenly, and I don't mean the ego thing either. I think he's just a lot less likeable, and I think they've done it on purpose because Charlie used to be the arsehole of the show and it wasn't possible to make Walden the arsehole and still have Allan live there - someone had to be arsehole to maintain the show balance.

We used to feel sorry for Allan because he'd been screwed over by his ex-wives - he was a genuinely nice guy who was desperately unlucky and had to live with his brother because he had no other option. Now he's leeching off a complete stranger which makes him a lot less likeable straight away, but even beyond that he's no longer a nice guy who's just looking to get by and find a girl etc - he's a sneaky, manipulative parasite who cheats his way through life and deserves all the 'bad luck' he gets. When Charlie was the arsehole he was still somewhat likeable as a character because he was a winner and it was funny; Allan playing the arsehole role doesn't work because it just isolates the audience, and Walden isn't as likeable as a nice guy either because it's not like we can feel sorry for the billionaire.

They've had to play around with the whole balance of the show and the way the characters interact to keep the premise similar, and it hasn't worked. Allan living there is still far fetched and the character balance is way off. Jake has been turned into an irrelevancy now too although tbf that happened a few seasons ago.

I think the writers know all this too which is why they spent the last episode developing the characters of the girlfriends and inventing a feud between them; they're trying to bridge the gap with new characters.