Yeah but when did they start, Callum only opened the Brumbies thread a couple of months ago. Clones > Vipers.
Freddy was basically a Cyclone through and through. Never looked like leaving, despised people who left etc etc. And, IIRC he was apart of the creation of Cyclones. Anywho, I ended up signing him to come to Lions, which meant massive blowups and suprises followed.. There is a bit to the story about why he left Clones, but not sure if Freddy wants to go into that...
I pretty much started the Cyclones up herewith help from Cribb. I signed Dempsey which helped too. Don't need to go into why I left.