NZ domestic cricket draft: Discussion and Picks

Discussion in 'CPL Cricket New Zealand' started by Jabba, Oct 4, 2010.

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Y or N

Poll closed Oct 7, 2010.
  1. Macca (y)

    30.0%
  2. Macca (n)

    70.0%
  1. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    That's just utter bullshit. I can't get behind anything that ranks Peter Ingram and some other retards as considerably better batsmen than Jesse Ryder. Gillespie being ranked so high is equally bizarre. This is silly and I have no interest in a simulation involving such crass stupidity. Some of the results this is coming up with basing things on bare stats with a few tweaks just isn't working. The sample sizes aren't big enough and this is causing unreasonable extrapolation. Personally think that the bare FC averages should be used for all players who played, say > 20 FC matches and only the players who've played less than 20 should be tweaked.
     
  2. Phlegm SP Phlegm

    Pinga>>>>Ryder and you know it.:ninja:
     
  3. Gazza GJ Weaver

    **** off Austin-Smellie is 35.

    And **** off Dents for taking Benjamin
     
  4. Phlegm SP Phlegm

    People taking the simming a bit more seriously than it deserves I reckon. I'm juding the sides by FC record than simming personally. The sim is just a bit of fun to laugh about and accuse each other of h4xing.

    EDIT: Not that I can say much since I disagreed with Cribb over some of his adjustments.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2010
  5. Jabba HJ Bots

    Agreed some guys took 10 wickets in 4 games and end up with an average of 25. Yet my guys take in the 20s and 30s and are worst go figure unless they were injured you would have though if they were so gun they would have played more games.

    Cribb is there any way you could set caps per season like if you don't play more than 5 games? Obviously excluding guys on tour with Black Caps.
     
  6. Phlegm SP Phlegm

    Ftr Vettori, Ryder and Taylor should average about the same.
     
  7. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Nah if they only took 10 wickets in 4 games they'd be capped to 30 or 35 depending on what sort of player they were.
     
  8. Phlegm SP Phlegm

    Your guys problem is a few don't play much because of injury.

    Thommo and McSkimming should have low bowling averages and iirc they do in the sim.
     
  9. nz0003 JR Denton

    Shit, might have to change the bowling order around a bit looking at Harry and Styris' stats!
     
  10. Phlegm SP Phlegm

    Yeah this is what Cribb has done. And even then you could object and ask why someone with 10-20 wickets at 25 is being penalised for playing few games when they've played well so far and haven't been injury struck like a few experienced players who get to keep their low averages.

    Swings and roundabouts. Just chuck Ryder and Vettori to 60 batting averages and roll with it. No one is claiming the sim is an exact science and it was only brought into this draft after the start to add a bit of fun.
     
  11. Cribbage RG Cribb

    It's obviously not perfect, but it's far more fair and accurate than any other method people have come up with (plucking numbers out of my arse based on what people think should happen, or going off career First Class averages which are totally unrepresentative). If people want to throw their toys out of the cot about players who have dominated domestic cricket in the last four season being likely to do well in a competition full of domestic players, then fine. Personally I don't find it at all unreasonable to suggest that Ingram and Sinclair might be able to bash around domestic trundlers with more clincal efficiency than someone like Ryder who probably wouldn't take it very seriously and all. After all, they've been dominating domestic bowlers in the last three seasons to a standard Ryder never approached. Ryder's obviously the better bat, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'd be better in these circumstances.

    The draft wasn't supposed to be about the simming anyway; it's just an add on for a bit of fun. if you don't want to follow it, don't.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2010
  12. Phlegm SP Phlegm

    Ryder just minnow bashed the Indians. Ishant Sharma doesn't compare with Andrew Ellis!:ninja:
     
  13. Jabba HJ Bots

    Yeah but what I was suggesting is capping them each season?

    Like this season Ellis would have been capped cause he only took 11@25 in 7 innings (4 matches)

    Or have you already been doing this?

    Thought you
     
  14. Cribbage RG Cribb

    All the seasons are added together, weighted on their recency. There'd be way too much capping otherwise.
     
  15. nz0003 JR Denton

    It's basically impossible to get spot on averages, just be happy we're getting this simmed with some sort of accuracy!
     
  16. nz0003 JR Denton

    Sorry bro, forgot you were mates with him. Pick someone similar and I'll trade.
     
  17. Gazza GJ Weaver

    Yea, all good.
     
  18. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    ****, I hate your avatar Crib.
     
  19. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Well everyone else hated my old one. :p
     
  20. Phlegm SP Phlegm

    dwta
     

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