Jobe Watson/Essendon

Discussion in 'Aussie Rules Football Discussion' started by Skippos, Jun 24, 2013.

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  1. Storer BA Storer

    Anyway, what everyone is saying is pretty much right. Would be nice for the findings to come out sooner rather than later though. It'll probably be loss of premiership points and a couple of draft picks.
    Not too sure whether they will strip Watson of the Brownlow or not.
     
    Storer, Jun 25, 2013
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  2. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Because there's more to it that AFL/Essendon/ASADA know, than the public do at the moment.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 25, 2013
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  3. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    AFL can add additional punishments after ASADA's investigation is completed.

    I think, anyway.
     
    MatthewJay, Jun 25, 2013
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  4. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Well naturally when an investigation is conducted by anyone or anything, the parties involved generally know more than the general public.

    It's common sense.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 25, 2013
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  5. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Hence why you're all perplexed as to why Essendon haven't been punished yet.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 25, 2013
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  6. KimmorleyKiller XX Meister

    I agree - it's not clear cut. There's conjecture about who administered the drugs, players taking supplements outside of the club, whether the drugs were illegal at the time and so it goes.
    However, there's two fundamental issues here that really irk me. Firstly, the governing bodies. Both codes are trying to sweep this under carpet. Fact.

    Secondly, although I do agree the ASADA investigation has been farcical... the very fact both clubs involved have engaged in needling programs with shady characters, without informing the governing bodies, outside of the club, without knowing what's actually in the drugs, putting players health at risk (soft tissue damage etc) all the while their coach is taking allegedly, flat out illegal supplements. Regardless of whether it was technically legal at the time or not, I think these kind of practices in themselves are enough to warrant punishment.
     
    KimmorleyKiller, Jun 25, 2013
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  7. Storer BA Storer

    Hird isn't taking anything illegal. It is legal for a coach to take it.
     
    Storer, Jun 25, 2013
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  8. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    They enhance his coaching performance.
     
    MatthewJay, Jun 25, 2013
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  9. KimmorleyKiller XX Meister

    Obviously, but it's still dodgy as fuck.
     
    KimmorleyKiller, Jun 25, 2013
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  10. KimmorleyKiller XX Meister

    It's like how university lecturers can fuck students. It's not illegal - but it's dodgy, and questions are asked if you're busted.
     
    KimmorleyKiller, Jun 25, 2013
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  11. Storer BA Storer

    Doesn't seem that obvious to you..
     
    Storer, Jun 25, 2013
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  12. KimmorleyKiller XX Meister

    I reckon you're on supplements you doped up stooge!
     
    KimmorleyKiller, Jun 25, 2013
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  13. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    I agree. I think Essendon should face some kind of punishment, and the AFL should of stepped in at the start and come out against these programs that involve injections and all that sport science stuff even if they are perfectly legal.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 25, 2013
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  14. Storer BA Storer

    AFL have always been soft on handing out punishments. It'll be up to ASADA.
     
    Storer, Jun 25, 2013
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  15. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Asada can only target the individuals, not the club.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 25, 2013
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  16. Skippos SM Morgan

    WADA/ASADA and all them are like the christian lobby though. They've all got an absolute no tolerance issue on doping even if unknown to the player like the christian lobby have no tolerance on many key social issues. The christian lobby try to influence politics and all that and the doping authorities are the same. People need to realise that these blokes are just like those biased right wingers and have blinkers on; there is never an excuse to them - it's bullshit, there's always possibility for an excuse. If a bloke had a schizophrenic inject steroids into them while they slept WADA/ASADA would want the bloke banned.

    I just don't like them because they're so fucking stubborn and biased. Yeah, doping's bad. But no - we shouldn't let a clearly biased authority enforce rules upon the game. They don't know what's best for AFL, they just enjoy the power trip.


    /rant
     
    Skippos, Jun 25, 2013
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  17. Mousey AJ Son

    Biased? They're the complete opposite to biased. They're no tolerance ffs :laugh:
     
    Mousey, Jun 25, 2013
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  18. Skippos SM Morgan

    I'm referring to the comment made by the dude that the moment the drugs enter the system absolutely irrelevant of how they got there every single person is gone.
     
    Skippos, Jun 25, 2013
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  19. Skippos SM Morgan

    You do realise no tolerance is just biased in the other direction, right?
     
    Skippos, Jun 25, 2013
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  20. Mousey AJ Son

    If you view it as a stance. I view it as a law.
     
    Mousey, Jun 25, 2013
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