2025 NRL Season

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Maroon_Faithful, Feb 7, 2025.

  1. Magic AJ Parker

    The only argument would be consistency over a long period of time, Haas has fluctuated in form over the years but at his best there is no one better and no one with a higher ceiling.
     
  2. Magic AJ Parker

    Chance Willison cops a week?
     
  3. Magic AJ Parker

    We need to stop begging for so many sin bins, it's ruining games.

    Seen people saying Mam should have been binned for striking, Martin for escalating.

    Just let it go. Nothing happened. Too many sin bins already in the game.
     
  4. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Haas form really hasn't fluctuated that badly. Never have I as a Broncos supporter questioned his effort, or ever thought he was not one of the best middles on the field.
    If Hynes didn't cop a week, Willison should be fine.
    On consistency, I assumed all 3 were going to get binned. I thought Martin alone should have been binned for the 3rd man in charge. If it's consistent, I'm happy for no bins in a situation like that.
     
  5. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Because coming back from 28-12 down and 14-0 down against two of the top sides shows mental toughness and belief. That's a dangerous combination.

    As I said, they will need to play better but asking for an 80 minute performance is misguided. That's not their go. If they can stay in it long enough for that 20-25 minute burst of magic, they're a fair chance.

    I think Melbourne will win and are deserved favourites but I certainly wont be shocked if Brisbane do. I mean you yourself thought they were gonna get flogged yesterday and at 14-0 down it looked on the money. And somehow they found a way without playing particularly brilliantly.

    Truth be told, I think Melbourne's pack is exploitable.
     
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  6. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Dont be stupid. Im the most anti-sin bin person on this forum by far. Based on the precedent, he has to go. 3rd man in has been off for 10 for over a decade. It's just typical NRL bullshit where common sense rulings prevail in finals in complete opposition to rulings all year.
     
  7. Magic AJ Parker

    Should clarify that a drop in form for Haas is still him as one of the top 5 props in the game.. just feels like he's had a couple of seasons like this in particular where he's destructive and dominant on a whole other level. AFB really has been a beast though for so long now, if he played for a big Sydney club or Melb/Brisbane he would get so much more love.

    Was Haas's best origin series this year too IMO which tipped me over in my estimations of him as the best prop in the game.
     
  8. Magic AJ Parker

    You're the last person I thought would ever be calling for consistency on bad binnings.
     
  9. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    We operate with two sets of books. All of us always have. There's consistency based on precedent, and what we actually think the precedent should be. You're just being obtuse.
     
  10. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Atkins to do GF over Klein. Thank fuck. That little potato head ruined the first two Origins and had shockers in all three finals he's reffed.
     
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  11. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    I think you have a case of the Mendela effect or something.

    Yes, Broncos pulled the win vs Canberra out of their arse, but I'll reiterate; they pretty much dominated the Raiders in every facet but the scoreboard up until Reece came back on. Brisbane bombed 3 tries the first half, and conceded 2 tries while down to 11 men. Though once they stopped blowing their chances and pulled thier finger out, they got the job done, and it looked easy. And they did it with Haas on 1 leg.

    Vs Storm, Broncos didn't have Reynolds or Mamm (which is comparable to no Harry). As for Hughes, he was there, and started. However, he got rolled and was injured. Broncos also had blokes like Billy filling in at 6 and still got the win, looking far better than the Storm.

    And in the Prelim, I wouldn't necessarily say the Panthers switched off, they did their standard front-loaded game. Had alnost 100% completions and all the ball intbhe first half. They were simply held out by good D, lost the momentum in the second half and were run down by a side who ran faster and tackled harder, for longer. Sure they fatigued more than what we're used to seeing, but that's why the week off is so huge.

    No way is this going to be lopsided. It's probably going to be an arm wrestle for 60-70 mins until a key player liek Munster, Walsh, Grant or Staggs take the game away.

    If a team blows this game out, it's more likely to be the Broncos IMO.
     
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  12. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    I actually thought the Panthers discombobulated quite a bit in that second half. The rot seemed to start the set before the first Broncos try, they were in great position to put something together and try and get the ball through a backline, or force a repeat set, but they suddenly looked rudderless. A few other times they tried to get a bit too cute and were playing as if there was 15 minutes less left in the game then their actually was.

    Broncos did well hanging in, but even their attack lacked quite a bit of threat I thought. I'll never understand why they weren't getting more ball to a Walsh/Staggs combo running at panthers fragile left.

    A fresh Carrigan will be huge though, I guess he'll make the middle that much more threatening and give Haas some much needed back up. Hope they put 40 on Storm.
     
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  13. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    I thought 2023 was a big passing of the Torch from Penrith to the Broncos and expected Brisbane to really excel as Panthes lost Crichton and co. Perhaps underestimated the Walters effect.
     
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  14. Toolman TR Man

    You're speaking from bias, I'm speaking from clarity. They weren't dominating the Raiders at all, it was a fairly even flowing contest and Canberra were putting it together better to execute. Considering how easily the Sharks beat them (though Strange was a big loss), that's not a good sign for Brisbane. Penrith had them beat, Brisbane got the luck of the bounce from Cleary's bat down, then only just got a final try in their last attempt which 99% of the time Penrith scramble and defend that, I couldn't believe Mariner actually managed to get over. That's with the conditions favouring Brisbane heavily too, play that game over 10 times at night, Penrith win 8 of them imo.

    This gf is going one way: Coates, Warbrick and Paps will have Melb starting on the front foot every set while Mariner and Karapani won't. From that advantage Melbourne will just relentlessly attack and dominate. Munster won't give Brisbane a moment of reprise. Any luck or Walsh plays favouring Brisbane won't matter either imo because Melbourne score enough points to counter that unlike Penrith.
     
  15. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Both fixtures they played earlier this year dont count for much because of the injury to key players on both sides. But in the first 25 minutes of both games I saw nothing which suggests Brisbane's pack cant get over Melbourne's. They have the size and power to render Melbourne's spine ineffective. Be interesting to see how the middles go.
     
  16. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    Yeah, I have some bias. I'm a Broncos fan, but it's been a love-hate thing for a while. I travelled to watch 2015 and 2023 GFs live, endured prank squads where I struggle to enjoy watching about half them play every weekend, and then there's the spoon... I grew up with an expectation of success with my footy team, yet have been let down over, and over. It was rough when it dawned on me that Broncos have been somewhat of a failure on the field, considering the advantages they've had, and still have. I'm not ignorant to their issues.
    I pay close attention to the Broncos. And I'm realistic about what they produce on the field. I know that they have all the raw talent right there, but they've had a soft underbelly, and next to no resilience for some time.
    However over the past 6 or so weeks of footy, since that Storm game where 3 players went down; and even though they lost by 20, they showed something I haven't seen, and they've clearly been a completely different side since.
    You claim to have clarity, being a neutral observer. I acknowledge that, but I dare-say there could be some Inverse bias.

    Anyway. The Broncos did dominate the Raiders. While having 11 players on the field for a bit and bombing 2-3 first half tries. Which is why it wasn't showing on the scoreboard.

    Possession: Raiders 43% | Broncos 57%

    Completion Rate: Raiders 72% | Broncos 81%

    All Run Metres: Raiders 1,817 | Broncos 2,997

    Post Contact Metres: Raiders 285 | Broncos 638

    Line Breaks: Raiders 4 | Broncos 7

    Tackle Breaks: Raiders 15 | Broncos 47

    Average Play-the-Ball Speed: Raiders 3.94s | Broncos 3.44s

    Offloads: Raiders 9 | Broncos 15

    Kicking Metres: Raiders 592 | Broncos 683

    Forced Drop Outs: Raiders 0 | Broncos 3

    40/20s: Raiders 0 | Broncos 2

    Missed Tackles: Raiders 57 | Broncos 35

    Sin Bins: Raiders 0 | Broncos 2

    As for the Panthers game. Most people, me included, would have expected the Panthers to score close to 30pts against most sides in that first half. Having a huge advantage in territory, ball control, and possession. Just as they did v the Dogs. Yet Broncos had the defensive mettle to hold them to 14 pts. Then they produced a second half shut-out. Panthers had their chances, but couldn't crack them. Yes, there was plenty of luck with Wilison's try. However Mariner's wasn't a complete fluke. Walsh would've known he'd be swarmed, and he knew his winger was there. Deane was too strong in the end.

    I'm probably overselling the Broncos, and I've seen the them produce some incredible things attack wise over the past few years when things are going perfectly or them. However, I haven't seen anything like the past month or so attitude wise. Overall, I think you are undervaluing them.
     
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  17. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    I thought so too, honestly. I think everyone underestimated the losses of Herbie and Flegler, but the squad was still crazy. Yet in the end they were flat track bullies, over-exposed, sniffed their own farts and Kevvie allowed that culture.
     
  18. Magic AJ Parker

    “Ezra had made a big mistake and he had to go through a fair journey to get himself back on track and he did that. He was working on a building site, he was doing community work. He paid a big price."

    I don't know if there is a more tone deaf club than the Broncos.

    His big price was escaping criminal charges and having to pretend he was a normal member of society for a few months :lol:

    Tell me I'm not barracking for the club who abolished 2 years of our competition records, introduced the chicken wing, the grapple and gave us Adam Blair.
     
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  19. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    He was collectively fined $120,000 by his employers. That's not tone deaf.
     
  20. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    No Tedesco for the Kangaroos tour. You'd almost have to pick Walsh at this point.
     

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